The Kashmir conflict 2025.

siegecrossbow

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Indain always find a way to claim superiority

J20 doesn't have battle experience, so Rafale win. Now Rafale get ass kicked by J10, but J20 sitll doesn't have battle experience, situation remains unchanged so INDIAN WIN

This is why the plane battle experience as gauge of fighter aircraft performance is silly. If we apply this logic then —

F-16 and F-15 are superior to MiG-29 because of Gulf War/Serbia kills.

Su-27 superior to MiG-29 because of Ethiopia kills

Mirage 2000 superior to F-16 because of Greece-Turkey air conflict kill.

Rafale only has AA kills against drones.

J-10C likely scores one Mirage-2K kill instead of Rafale recently.

So J-10C > Mirage 2K > F-16 = F-15 = Su-27 > Rafale = MiG-29???
 

LCR34

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This is why the plane battle experience as gauge of fighter aircraft performance is silly. If we apply this logic then —

F-16 and F-15 are superior to MiG-29 because of Gulf War/Serbia kills.

Su-27 superior to MiG-29 because of Ethiopia kills

Mirage 2000 superior to F-16 because of Greece-Turkey air conflict kill.

Rafale only has AA kills against drones.

J-10C likely scores one Mirage-2K kill instead of Rafale recently.

So J-10C > Mirage 2K > F-16 = F-15 = Su-27 > Rafale = MiG-29???
First statement true: F16 and F15 constantly upgraded. Mikoyan bureau is no more.
2nd Statement: True. Else PLAAF would have bought MIG-29.
3rd Statement: it’s a wash. Deltas has better instantaneous turn but bleeds energy faster. Conventional one has better sustained turn. Turkish pilot can be uhm (sequ gonna kill me).
 
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Antey1

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First statement true: F16 and F15 constantly upgraded. Mikoyan bureau is no more.
2nd Statement: True. Else PLAAF would have bought MIG-29.
3rd Statement: it’s a wash. Deltas has better instantaneous turn but bleeds energy faster. Conventional one has better sustained turn. Turkish pilot can be uhm (sequ gonna kill me).

Yeah... a F-16V is better than a MiG-29 1.12A from 1983. F-16A from 1980? No, no. We don't do that here!

Yeah... PLAAF Bought flankers because it's better in air to air than a MiG-29, not because it's a totally different plane that fullfils a very different role, with great differences in range, weapon capacity, and many other parameters. Nah, it must be stronker!
 

GiantPanda

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Indians can't entirely lie when the market has spoken -- mixing Indian delusions here would mean losing real money.

But they refuse to explicitly state that the reason for the "steep decline" in Dassault stocks and the "surge" in Chengdu's is because the J-10C shot down a fucking Indian Rafale. lol

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Paris: Shares of French defence giant Dassault Aviation, the manufacturer of Rafale fighter jets reportedly used in India's 'Operation Sindoor', saw a significant drop in the European stock market. Meanwhile, Chinese aircraft maker Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC), which supplies Pakistan with J-10 fighter jets, experienced a notable surge in share value.
 

AndrewJ

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This is why the plane battle experience as gauge of fighter aircraft performance is silly. If we apply this logic then —

F-16 and F-15 are superior to MiG-29 because of Gulf War/Serbia kills.

Su-27 superior to MiG-29 because of Ethiopia kills

Mirage 2000 superior to F-16 because of Greece-Turkey air conflict kill.

Rafale only has AA kills against drones.

J-10C likely scores one Mirage-2K kill instead of Rafale recently.

So J-10C > Mirage 2K > F-16 = F-15 = Su-27 > Rafale = MiG-29???

F-22's superiority is only built on a Chinese balloon.

Meanwhile, J-36 & J-50 are still going on tests, never defeat anyone. So they're not 6th gen, they're the worst-performed planes the mankind ever built!!
 
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