The Kashmir conflict 2025.

latenlazy

Brigadier
Seems like this is escalating out of control...
Without broader committed objectives from either side that they define to be worth the cost of indefinite bleeding in a prolonged engagement they’ll get tired of lobbing munitions at each other once they’ve expended enough initial stockpile. Don’t see this going for more than a few weeks. Real escalation spirals require commitments towards clear nonnegotiable objectives.
 

ZeEa5KPul

Colonel
Registered Member
i think anything short of the total subjugation and pacification of india would be bad for china/pakistan because a wounded india would only drive itself further towards the western sphere of influence.
I think India would react to a defeat by taking stock of its losses, soberly introspecting about the series of failures that led it to its current state, the self-delusion, letting itself be led down the primrose path by the Anglophones, succumbing to religious fanaticism, neglecting its people and development...

Oh, who am I kidding? Of course India's gonna India!

By the way, there's a whole lot of steps between where we are now and China directly intervening on Pakistan's behalf. For example,
Pakistan: How many J-10Cs have you got?
China: How many pilots have you got?
 

mayato

Just Hatched
Registered Member
他不是,但和核心圈子里的人关系很密切。他曾采访过赤瓜礁冲突的指挥官。

但他总体上比较稳重。像奥特这样的人,一旦事情不按计划进行,往往会失控。
是的,他是中国数千万军迷的意见领袖之一,而且他在这个领域确实有一些扎实的研究和人脉。去年他来成都四川航空博物馆做苏霍伊系列战斗机公开讲座的时候,我在成都见过他,还拍过照。
 

AndrewJ

Junior Member
Registered Member
Do we have confirmation that Indian have received Meteor AAM?

I heard some sources say they ordered Meteor, but haven't received any of them yet. So their Rafales couldn't use them in 5.7 air combat. Their Rafales are only equipped with MICA AAM, much inferior to Paki PL-15E. :oops:
 
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generalmeng

Junior Member
Registered Member
i think anything short of the total subjugation and pacification of india would be bad for china/pakistan because a wounded india would only drive itself further towards the western sphere of influence.
wounded India going to western influence isn't a major concern. because fundamentally, India is large enough to be a great power. So India would never become a full subject to the west, India's alliance to the west will only go as far as their own survival.

however, a wounded India would mean more border revolt and unrest. India have more ethnics than China, and wounded India means less central control over those minorities and they would want independence. Those minorities would have some population on china's border, and China would have to get involve in counter insurgency, which means, very expensive.

For example, nepal and bhuthan are more pro china due to India directly absorbing sikkim. if india is weak, then they would worry about china absorbing them. plus India would lose central command on many ethnic minority region, and sparking more war of independence and nationalism. the largest ethnic in india is only 200 million. their populations is 1.4 billion. so there are so much internal competition and rivalry in india.

I think a long and more escalated war would not be clearly favors india. because india is also heavily dependent on foreign import for arms. india would have more credit to import more arms. but pakistan can still import extremely cheap and cost effective drones. the ethnic composition of india would make it hard for them to use nationalism to win this war.

Russia is majority ethnic white slav russian. India isn't majority one ethnic. while pakistan have less ethnic diversity than india; on defence, most of the ethnic would unite to defend pakistan, because their own survial depends on it.
 
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