I'm probably gonna get perma banned after this violation, but could not resist.
This little article explains how badly fkd India is,
TL;DR
India doesn't have Rafale and M2K source codes, hence cannot equip Indian systems and munitions on it. Dassault refuses to share. That also hints that all non-French systems are likely not integrated with the Rafale and M2K, such as the non-French ground radars, AWACS, SAM, etc.
I think this lack of integration issue was well-known, as pointed out earlier in the thread. In 2019, India's Israeli-made SPYDER SAM shot down IAF's Russian-made Mi-17 chopper in friendly fire.
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20m ago,
Drone shot down over Lahore
May 7-8
Many telegram reports indicating something happened in Gujranwala, Pakistani P
unjab (explosions on ground and air); later reports say Indian drone was intercepted
Explosions heard in Amritsar (Indian town on the border near Lahore)
Interceptors firing from Amritsar and Jalandhar (Indian P
anjab)
Person recording this crash at Bathinda says "somebody got shot AFTER they exited [the plane]; they're picking up people and carrying them away"
May 6
A local Kashmiri in India posted this video and another preceding it on Twitter (probably already posted here). He says in the video: "missile was approaching this aircraft, it dispensed flares, got hit, explosion; unknown if Pakistan's or India's"
Now that we know that it was probably Indian, we also know the flares did not work. His other video had captured the flares (but i lost the link).
This crash in Srinagar looks too big to be a fighter?
Can someone verify if the video of aircraft shot down is legit or from some games?
Video is from a video game. An Indian asked Grok to verify. Grok replied that the footage is real. That should tell you everything about Grok's abilities.
According to wikipedia there are 5 IAF bases in Punjab, IN including one base hosting a Rafale wing
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If confirmed, we could be seeing Pakistan's retaliation against IAF
IAF also has bases in Rajasthan along/near the Pakistani Punjab border. Bikaner AFS and Jaisalmer AFS are pretty big. Bikaner may have played a role in the strike on Bahawalpur.
Gotta strike when the iron is hot. Considering pakistan would love to regain kashmir. It might be a good opportunity to regain at least part of that land
Jammu looks get-able. It's trapped in a narrow space with mountains on one side of the town and Pakistan border on a flat land 15km away. Road to Jammu from india proper is along a narrow corridor as well, just 8km from the border to the mountains.
Responding to an outside agression is the duty of the government regardless its form and shape, no need to bring in Pakistan's domestic politics. The narative of military leadership against Imran Khan is the type of western narative that has been used back and forth against countries unfriendly to them.
Hitting a dam will turn Pakistan from a favorable position (reasonable, rational and responsible) to nagative one like India's renegation of water treaty and agression without showing any evidence. India is acting like US after 911, throwing accusation on Iraq and invaded it. Pakistani leadership is smart not to act like India.
There is a serious massive water shortage in India. Not being talked about much but it has become as much an existential threat for them as it has been for Pakistan. And with China damming the Yarlung/Brahmaputra, the effect of the threat is exarcebated, along with India's heavily polluted water sources, exhausted aquifers and constant heatwaves.
Suspension of Indus River treaty was India's first step towards securing it's water resources. Next step is damming the Indus and diverting water to India. These developments will 100% lead to war (if they haven't already). In that situation, Pakistan will have to lead the war.
I think the 125 planes in the sky might just be inevitable hyperbole or some twisting of the facts to fit the number.
Sensationalist nonsense. The first paragraph said it all: dog fight at 160km. Wtf!