Damn it man, these guys seriously made a phonk edit of that Temu Netahyanu comment.
The Kashmir conflict 2025.
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Technically speaking I could be part of a Think Tank in China if I wanted. That doesn’t make me a credible source on PRC policies.
Exactly! Idk why PravinSwahney who otherwise comes off as very smart and honest person, takes whatever Victor says so seriously.
Because who else do they have. Unlike India or other countries who love boasting so much, China isn't going to let people speak out so easily with the risk of giving away important stuff. Esp in English. It's a standard cultural thing there, don't show your cards.
When you think about how Indians keep having all these bad reads and takes on China, it's almost beginning to look like it was planned on purpose.
I highly doubt that China would cut off India's waters. The main reason is that it's just not China's style - they're more likely to attack with the PLA than to directly attack India's people like this. The other reason is that the rivers that China can cut off flow into Pakistan and Bangladesh so doing so will hurt these countries more than India itself.
It's also quite possible that the PAF decided to let the IAF off (relatively) easy. Pakistan's main goal is to end the conflict as quickly as possible, and wiping out massive numbers of fighters might force India to commit more forces instead.
Even bigger loss is of reputation. India was marketing itself to the West as a counterweight to China. I wouldn't be surprised if Vance went to India just to say "prove you are worthy".
Currently, India really don't have a way to divert water away from the downstream river. What it can do is to withhold water with their reservoir, then releasing it in a rush to do some damage. From what I understand, the Chinese are already working with the Pakistanis to build a series of reservoirs downstream to mitigate this damage. In order to truly divert water, the Indians need to spend billions over many years. If it comes to that, there are many ways to handle it. One way is for China to support an invasion to take back the Indian occupied Kashmir(and maybe some parts beyond). The Pakistanis are not in a position to fight a war, but if faced with losing their lifeline, the Pakistanis will find a way. I think in this situation, the Chinese will have to choose between a Pakistan with significantly worsened prospects, or help them win this war. I think they will choose to help them win this war. If you control the air, it should go a long ways. From what I heard, the other weapons like tanks and cannons are also far superior to the Indian counterpart during this war(yes, a land war was also fought in this conflict). To add to that the far superior drone warfare that the Chinese have. The only issue is how poor the Pakistanis are today, but if China has to choose between a Pakistan that teeters on collapse versus paying some money to have their army weapons battle tested, they would go for the latter.
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plawolf
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I think the 20 locked by only choosing to shoot 6 story is probably spinning the truth a bit.
In real combat, you cannot micromanage individual engagements to that extent as doing so will introduce unacceptable levels of delay in decision making in a domain of warfare where even split seconds can mean the difference between life and death. That is why fighter pilots need to be so well trained, as they need be able to make a lot of high difficulty high impact decisions independently and make the right call.
The decision to not engage some IAF aircraft locked almost certainly were made by the pilots themselves based on tactical considerations rather than them being denied permission to make easy kill shots by back office commanders for political considerations.
The most likely reason they chose not to engage those IAF aircraft were because those IAF aircraft were already at the edge of PL15 effect engagement range and probably burning hard for home. So the KP were basically nil and shooting at them would just have needlessly wasted missiles.
That speaks to the professionalism of the PAF pilots that they were keeping the big picture in mind and conserving ammo in case the IAF came back for a second round immediately and not just spamming missiles trying to make a lucky kill to bag some more glory.