Likewise, I don't think that it's out of the question for India to build a fifth generation fighter. However the process is going to be very painful and it's going to take a very long time. India just put out a tender looking for someone to bid on the program so it's likely that this project will have to throw out most of the work that's gone into AMCA so far. If we take KAAN as a guide, it will be another 13 years before AMCA's first flight. And that's in the unlikely chance that India treats the project as a proper weapons program instead of a prestige project.
The Kashmir conflict 2025.
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Hey some of this stuff posted on twitter seems familiar. Make sure we are not reposting old stuff as news. It doesn't really help much. We want the latest stuff like not repeats of stuff we already know.
Important thing to note,
While we have plenty of Indian footage of Pakistani rockets/missiles/drones inside India, I don't think I've seen any Indian projectile approaching a target inside Pakistan except for a couple Israeli drones. And that is taking into consideration the fact that civil internet/electricity was cutoff only in India.
This appears to suggest that Indian ground forces were also completely neutralized and outmatched in this scenario.
While we have plenty of Indian footage of Pakistani rockets/missiles/drones inside India, I don't think I've seen any Indian projectile approaching a target inside Pakistan except for a couple Israeli drones. And that is taking into consideration the fact that civil internet/electricity was cutoff only in India.
This appears to suggest that Indian ground forces were also completely neutralized and outmatched in this scenario.
There is a video of a fire behind a C-130. It's not clear enough to determine if the aircraft was damaged. But it looked like the fire was behind the aircraft.There is another one false claims shooting down Awacs 400kms inside pakistani airspace.
Also about shooting down C130J, Which I dont think PAF even operates (india does) so maybe they shot down their own? again?
Martin Baker's count isn't telling enough. There is evidence of a Rafale crash in which the pilot(s) could not eject; some eyewitnesses said two dead pilots were pulled out of the wreckage. MB would not update on ejection failure.
You could say PAF has effectively created an aerial buffer zone of +150km inside Indian territory and left the Indians (as well as everyone else except China) to guess whether this buffer zone extends to 300km. Lol
If fire is put out immediately, why would smoke appear into the next day? Either way, there is plenty of footage in the previous pages of IAF bases billowing with smoke throughout the day.
I think India is giving it to the Japanese to assure them that they are fkd as well.
"Hindu Zionist".. this is what they came to do in Pakistan - "turn it into Gaza".
I wrote of this in the misc thread a few times last year - India is trying to replicate the Israeli system, step by step and inch by inch.
Here they say it openly.
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Indian journalist says IAF bases near border used to be very active with flights but now it is very quiet; claims from his sources that IAF aircraft have been pushed 300km back. PL-15E̶?
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All the destroyed Indian equipment,
There's a Brahmos seeker in there too!
I wrote of this in the misc thread a few times last year - India is trying to replicate the Israeli system, step by step and inch by inch.
Here they say it openly.
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Indian journalist says IAF bases near border used to be very active with flights but now it is very quiet; claims from his sources that IAF aircraft have been pushed 300km back. PL-15E̶?
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All the destroyed Indian equipment,
There's a Brahmos seeker in there too!
Role of BeiDou in the conflict,
13h ago
IAF rn
Local Sikh from Indian Panjab says India moved defense equipment into the Golden Temple (Sikhism's holiest site) so Pakistan wouldn't attack it,
^^that's straight outta the Israeli playbook
13h ago
IAF rn
Local Sikh from Indian Panjab says India moved defense equipment into the Golden Temple (Sikhism's holiest site) so Pakistan wouldn't attack it,
^^that's straight outta the Israeli playbook
Now I hope the Pakistani had realized that China had contribute the most in their victory against India NOT Turkiye, tactically their drone may achieved some LOCAL success But IN OVERALL Tactical and geopolitical level the Chinese did it.
Okay success had many father and failure is an orphan, in this report we can finally say the seed came from a Chinese.
Now I hope the Pakistani had realized that China had contribute the most in their victory against India NOT Turkiye, tactically their drone may achieved some LOCAL success But IN OVERALL Tactical and geopolitical level the Chinese did it.
Okay success had many father and failure is an orphan, in this report we can finally say the seed came from a Chinese.
Not quite sure how you arrived at the conclusion that "Pakistanis now realize" it was solely China behind the success.
In reality, it was a well-coordinated mix of systems like AWACS, fighters, BVRAAMs, drones, AD, ECM/ESM units, and MLRS sourced from China, US, EU, Türkiye and also developed indigenously.
Equally important was the successful integration of systems like Link-16 and Link-17, which played a critical role in network-centric warfare. Let’s also not overlook the rigorous training and professionalism of the personnel such as pilots and ground Teams alike that made the system work as a cohesive whole.
Victory in modern warfare is rarely the result of a single system's contribution, it's about integration, adaptation, and execution.
I'm with you bro, I just want to know what really did Turkiye contribute regarding system integration, the plane that was used was a Chinese plane using a Chinese missile. Knowing Turkiye support for Uyghur separatist will the Chinese allowed the Turks to inspect and give the source code? definite not cause the trust isn't there.
Okay maybe the F16 cause both of them operate the same plane BUT the American will never allowed that , the reason why the F16 is a non factor in this conflict.
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Honestly its frustrating how China never really gets the credit it deserves. Even when it achieves something, great they will find ways to trivialize it. Oh well , constantly overlooking China is fine since China prefers that you come to face it unprepared.Now I hope the Pakistani had realized that China had contribute the most in their victory against India NOT Turkiye, tactically their drone may achieved some LOCAL success But IN OVERALL Tactical and geopolitical level the Chinese did it.
Okay success had many father and failure is an orphan, in this report we can finally say the seed came from a Chinese.