The Kashmir conflict 2025.

[AlexYe]

What happened to all those superior Indian programmers who can't break the Rafael's source code for Indians to then whine hard about France not giving them access? And Indians think they can learn something about the PL-15... if it's real? Again we're talking about known liars because they're so bad at it. Then they have to "give" it to the Japanese to have them dissect it. What does that tell you?

I dont understand the weird threat of 'we have pl-15' fragments, we will break into it/reverse engineer it etc.
On one hand you were saying they didnt work then why spend all this effort, And using what the Chinese spox said about them being 'export variant' as some sort of 'gotcha' moment.

And if you were able to reverse engineer/build it your own, you have meteors and Russian...I forgot what they are called R something,
Why dont you do the same to them? Or the Astra 2's for the TejasMk 2's

 

[siegecrossbow]

You can clearly see a certain part in the middle is missing. You can also measure out the entire length of the PL15E in the picture against the published data to confirm that. So much for being "Intact"

Also, if Chinese missiles are so shit and ineffective, why yall acting like you discovered cure for cancer?

The same reason he quotes Tom Cooper, who confirms that multiple Indian jets were shot down but continues to claim that PL-15 didn’t hit anything — they love to cherry pick.

 

[4Tran]

Wonder how would they have such detailed info. Probably i would suspect at least one of the Rafales must be a two-seater, simply because looking at the history of air to air combat claims, be it India-Pakistan, or ME or Desert Storm, or Vietnam etc., almost never what one side claims fully corresponds with what the other side loses.

This is from a while back but I think the reason for the accuracy of the Pakistani claims is because the kills were scored by PL-15s. The PL-15 is unusual in that it has a two-way datalink which means it's constantly talking to the Link-17 system. That means that these missiles will upload their seeker head data all the way until their warheads detonate. A little colloboration with what the proximity of the target and whether said target disappears off radar afterwards should be enough to confirm the kill.

As an added bonus, the PAF would probably know what each target was doing right up until it died so they should know exactly when these targets started evading. And with such a wealth of data, the PAF should be able to hone their tactics to be even more deadly in future conflicts.

I think that there's way too much attention paid to just how many IAF fighters got shot down. The big deal is that the IAF is completely helpless against the PAF until they find a countermeasure for the Pakistani capabilities, so whether it was one plane that got shot down or fifteen doesn't really matter all that much.

 

[siegecrossbow]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1929106077678809460

Surely the PL-15s all missed. Why else would the Indian military be confiscating phones at crash sites?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1928676794443456658

lol.

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[GulfLander]

A chinese company has released high resolution images of Pakistani airbases after attacks there are several other images and videos i will keep posting

Which company?

 

[Randomuser]

Which company?

You're responding to a now banned jai hind.

 

[tamsen_ikard]

On a serious note where is the before after satellite images of Indian bases attacked by Pakistan. Surely, someone somewhere should have done a comparison photo by now.

 

[Observer1]

On a serious note where is the before after satellite images of Indian bases attacked by Pakistan. Surely, someone somewhere should have done a comparison photo by now.

According to Pakistani claims, the targets they responded with weren't fixed structures like hangers or large buildings on the ground but mobile air defence components of the S-400, and other auxiliary support facilities of military infrastructure like feul depots, ammunition depots etc.

Here is a video covering it, skip to about 50:00 minutes

 

[tamsen_ikard]

According to Pakistani claims, the targets they responded with weren't fixed structures like hangers or large buildings on the ground but mobile air defence components of the S-400, and other auxiliary support facilities of military infrastructure like feul depots, ammunition depots etc.

Here is a video covering it, skip to about 50:00 minutes

Even if that is the case, destroyed S-400 or Fuel depots will show smoke the next day. There should be before after comparison possible. I feel this is a critical piece of evidence to debunk Indian disinformation. Even if Pakistan is withholding it, other journalists should have means to get this through commercial satellite. I feel the dearth of such photos to be very wierd.

 

[AlexYe]

I think its because PAF uses chinese military sats and they cant? release those pictures or dont want to for some reason?
Or the ones pakistan has arent good resolution ones, if they are using their own?
Meanwhile lots of commercial sats are basically banned by indian gov, certain locations banned and request first goes to the gov for approval.

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Which company?

Havnt seen chinese one, only seen maxars.
Which picture1.

There are some older images I have seen and these radar trucks are so small thing-long not sure if damage would be properly visible (pic1-3)