The Civil War in Libya
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bladerunner
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bladerunner
Banned Idiot
Agreed, whats more Im waiting for an explanation why Muslim culture is being ignored in not having him buried within 24hrs.
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MwRYum
Major
The 24hrs isn't a strict guideline, they simply strive to have it arranged as soon as possible, the only thing about time period is the mourning period.
Now, given the chaotic nature of situations in Libya, as well as the dead being none other than Qaddafi, it'd be hard press for them to get it set up in such short time.
Strange to call it "executed" rather than "murdered". Newspeak by the BBC.
Baibar of Jalat
Junior Member
Well I think its worse they did not hand him over to Gaddafi tribe. They argue its to prevent a shrine being built, but I think it will breed resentment.
If the factions cannot agree on burying Gaddafi, then they gonna have a tough time on other issues. NTC in Benghazi would not have wanted body paraded because of bad publicity especially in eyes of master in foreign nations.
A blog post by M K Bhadrakumar :
Sarkozy, Obama and the Enlightenment
Without using physical violence, can you make someone spit out the chewing gum he is so obviously enjoying?Russia has shown you can. That is how its diplomacy in the UN Security Council on Thursday over Resolution 1973 on Libya could be understood.
Russia’s formidable envoy to the Nato [North Atlantic Treaty Organization], Dmitry Rogozin, who has a way with words that only gifted politicians have, said once in August that the western alliance was using R 1973 like chewing gum to deliberately display its disregard for the UN SC. The R 1973 provided for a ‘no-fly zone’ over Libya and the West went ahead to bomb the daylight out of Libya killing thousands of innocent civilians and ending up sodomising Muammar Gaddafi with a knife before putting out his miserable life. (Don’t watch those 28 horrific pictures unless you have a stony heart.)
By the way, I begin to wonder what is this famous “Enlightenment” in the history of western civilisation was all about when they could perpetrate such barbarism? Isn’t Enlightenment a myth? Did they ever really come out of the Middle Ages - Nicolas Sarkozy and Barack Obama, et al?
Anyway, Russian diplomacy in the post-Soviet period never served the cause of peace so brilliantly as when it tabled a resolution in the UN SC calling for an end to the Nato mission in Libya. The initiative was taken at the nick of time when Nato was gearing up to prolong its mission in Libya on one pretext or the other and was arranging the charade of political legitimacy for it by making it look like the Libyan people collectively desired the presence of the western troops.
The Russian move was impeccably logical since the Libyan skies are now free of Gaddafi’s killer-aircraft, after all, and there is no more need of a ‘free-fly zone’. Funnily, the Russian resolution was passed unanimously. Sarkozy and Obama were left with no alternative. Now, isn’t that creditable - to get the unwilling bully take out the chewing gum he is enjoying by himself, and actually made to use use his own manicured finger to do it?
In geopolitical terms, this puts Nato in an awkward spot. Its whole agenda to spread wings and move into Africa was predicated on consolidating its toehold in Libya. So, will Washington and Brussels give up so easily? One thing is clear: Russia and China won’t fall into a R-1973 trap in the Syrian context.
Sarkozy, Obama and the Enlightenment
Without using physical violence, can you make someone spit out the chewing gum he is so obviously enjoying?Russia has shown you can. That is how its diplomacy in the UN Security Council on Thursday over Resolution 1973 on Libya could be understood.
Russia’s formidable envoy to the Nato [North Atlantic Treaty Organization], Dmitry Rogozin, who has a way with words that only gifted politicians have, said once in August that the western alliance was using R 1973 like chewing gum to deliberately display its disregard for the UN SC. The R 1973 provided for a ‘no-fly zone’ over Libya and the West went ahead to bomb the daylight out of Libya killing thousands of innocent civilians and ending up sodomising Muammar Gaddafi with a knife before putting out his miserable life. (Don’t watch those 28 horrific pictures unless you have a stony heart.)
By the way, I begin to wonder what is this famous “Enlightenment” in the history of western civilisation was all about when they could perpetrate such barbarism? Isn’t Enlightenment a myth? Did they ever really come out of the Middle Ages - Nicolas Sarkozy and Barack Obama, et al?
Anyway, Russian diplomacy in the post-Soviet period never served the cause of peace so brilliantly as when it tabled a resolution in the UN SC calling for an end to the Nato mission in Libya. The initiative was taken at the nick of time when Nato was gearing up to prolong its mission in Libya on one pretext or the other and was arranging the charade of political legitimacy for it by making it look like the Libyan people collectively desired the presence of the western troops.
The Russian move was impeccably logical since the Libyan skies are now free of Gaddafi’s killer-aircraft, after all, and there is no more need of a ‘free-fly zone’. Funnily, the Russian resolution was passed unanimously. Sarkozy and Obama were left with no alternative. Now, isn’t that creditable - to get the unwilling bully take out the chewing gum he is enjoying by himself, and actually made to use use his own manicured finger to do it?
In geopolitical terms, this puts Nato in an awkward spot. Its whole agenda to spread wings and move into Africa was predicated on consolidating its toehold in Libya. So, will Washington and Brussels give up so easily? One thing is clear: Russia and China won’t fall into a R-1973 trap in the Syrian context.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Where is the proof that thousands of civilians died in NATO air strikes? If the death toll was anywhere close to that, I am sure Gaddaffi's PR guys would have made us all aware of it way before now, and would not have had to fake car crash babies as air strike victims.
And how he can blame NATO for buggering Qaddaffi is beyond me. Has NATO deployed some new buttrape smart bomb we are not aware off?
If he had pointed out at the inconsistency of bombing Gaddaffi forces to save civilians while joining in rebels flattening pro-Qaddaffi urban population centers, he would have had a point. But as it is, it just looks like he is inventing or exaggerating stuff, which in turn massively damages the credibility of his case.
I am also not at all sold on the resolution to end the enforcement of the no-fly-zone to be the diplomatic masterstroke he likes to paint it as.
Now that the rebels have won and will form their own government, they can invite whoever they want to set up military bases in Libya all by themselves. And since R 1973 specifically ruled out ground forces, NATO was never going to use that as a pretext to set up bases on the ground anyways. Why do you need to lawyer your way in when you can just get your new best buds to invite you in instead?
And how he can blame NATO for buggering Qaddaffi is beyond me. Has NATO deployed some new buttrape smart bomb we are not aware off?
If he had pointed out at the inconsistency of bombing Gaddaffi forces to save civilians while joining in rebels flattening pro-Qaddaffi urban population centers, he would have had a point. But as it is, it just looks like he is inventing or exaggerating stuff, which in turn massively damages the credibility of his case.
I am also not at all sold on the resolution to end the enforcement of the no-fly-zone to be the diplomatic masterstroke he likes to paint it as.
Now that the rebels have won and will form their own government, they can invite whoever they want to set up military bases in Libya all by themselves. And since R 1973 specifically ruled out ground forces, NATO was never going to use that as a pretext to set up bases on the ground anyways. Why do you need to lawyer your way in when you can just get your new best buds to invite you in instead?
noone536
Junior Member
you have to remeber that gaddafi had no pr guy. according to cnn gaddafi was pretty much secluded from everyone on his last few days. but yes i do see your point. considering that the media is bias and the main community in the west try to help lybia oust gaddafi, i see no problem of them no writting anything about that
