The Chinese Cruiser, forget the carrier...
- Thread starter iceHawk
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There is a rumor that a Seawolf underway is quieter than a LA lying in the harbour.
The Seawolf is really uniqe when it comes to silence, except for Virgina which isn't fully operational yet. Also, the Seawolf carries a range of new sensors giving it a capability unmatched so far, except for the Virgina again. But since the PLAN doesn't have either one of these three its best bet, as noted, is to use a SSK. The chances of an SSK being on the right spot at the right time, and then breaking through the most sophisticated ASW net in the world are however, as also have been noted, quite slim.
This has however nothing to do with the carrier vs. cruiser debate as far as I can see, so let's get back to it:
Any true blue-water navy needs both cruisers and carriers, since they are complements and not substitutes to each other. Therefore, if China wants a true blue-water capability, it needs to include both of them. That will however cost lots and lots of money, not only building the ships, but training crews, maintaining them etc.
For the moment China probably will have to live with the fact that it can't have both, and in that case it probably will choose the carrier.
The Seawolf is really uniqe when it comes to silence, except for Virgina which isn't fully operational yet. Also, the Seawolf carries a range of new sensors giving it a capability unmatched so far, except for the Virgina again. But since the PLAN doesn't have either one of these three its best bet, as noted, is to use a SSK. The chances of an SSK being on the right spot at the right time, and then breaking through the most sophisticated ASW net in the world are however, as also have been noted, quite slim.
This has however nothing to do with the carrier vs. cruiser debate as far as I can see, so let's get back to it:
Any true blue-water navy needs both cruisers and carriers, since they are complements and not substitutes to each other. Therefore, if China wants a true blue-water capability, it needs to include both of them. That will however cost lots and lots of money, not only building the ships, but training crews, maintaining them etc.
For the moment China probably will have to live with the fact that it can't have both, and in that case it probably will choose the carrier.
FriedRiceNSpice
Captain
IDonT said:
You know... aircraft, fuel, weapons for the aircraft, and other such things all take up space too. Last time I checked, a plane was bigger than a missile.
MIGleader
Banned Idiot
Lavi said:
i dont think a blue water navy actually requires crusiers. they are simply large missle platforms, can largew destroyers can do the job of a cruser perfectly well. as for china, its not at a lack for men, material, experience, or money to build ships. the plan has never shown itself to be interested in cruisers, but has expressed great interests in carriers.
MIGleader said:
I think the China maybe will be heading in cruiser,as we can see, the PLAN will be fielding a ship with VLS SAM and array radar system, the next step could be possibly a ship with VLS SAM and maybe cruise missile for deep strike capability,well, more exactly, a Chinese version of the AEGIS Ticonderoga Cruiser.
MIGleader said:
The problem with a 1000km AShM is that you have to actually find the enemy ship to attack it, and I think that it would be very difficult for a surface ship to detect another surface ship that is 1000km away. The way I see it, the real advantage of the carrier is not its firepower, but rather that the carrier has capabilities in reconnaissance, surveillance, and air defence that a cruiser just can't match.