Terror Attack in Paris, January 7, 2014
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Mr T
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Charlie Hebdo has released its new cover, which is being reprinted in a number of newspapers. Interestingly there is varying coverage of the image, even within countries.
This will create an interesting security issue, as there are even more targets for terrorists before. However, perhaps through strength of numbers (i.e. not everyone can be targeted) attacks may be discouraged.
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This will create an interesting security issue, as there are even more targets for terrorists before. However, perhaps through strength of numbers (i.e. not everyone can be targeted) attacks may be discouraged.
Removed political off topic reply.
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This thread is about the Paris Terror Attack...not about China and their Muslim population or comparisons and what ifs regarding China. Stay on topic. Next infraction will bring more than a warning, it will bring suspensions. Consider this the warning to those making the posts and responding to them
LA Times said:The investigation into last week's terror attacks in and around Paris has unearthed hints of foreign militant involvement in planning, financing and arming the French-born gunmen who killed 17 people in the deadliest attack on the country in decades.
Reports by French security officials and international media have combined to suggest a wide-ranging and long-running international conspiracy behind the terror spree that began with an attack on the Charlie Hebdo satirical magazine and later widened to include a policewoman and four shoppers at a kosher market.
A French police official says the weapons used by a terror cell in attacks in the Paris region that left 17 people dead came from outside the country.
A French police official says the weapons used by a terror cell in attacks in the Paris region that left 17 people dead came from outside the country.
Here is what has been reported so far from the investigation and by witnesses interviewed by police and the media:
-- Said and Cherif Kouachi carried out the attack on the magazine shortly before noon Jan. 7 after forcing a cartoonist arriving for a staff meeting to open the ground-floor entrance with her security key card. The brothers -- hooded, clad in black and carrying assault rifles -- proceeded to the editor's office and methodically shot and killed editor Stephane Charbonnier, his police bodyguard and seven staffers. A visitor to the office, a maintenance man and a police guard at the entrance were also killed.
-- Said Kouachi, 34, had traveled to Yemen in 2011 for weapons training by militants of the Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula affiliate, or AQAP. Cherif Kouachi, 32, had been radicalized in prison while serving time for a 2008 conviction on terrorism-related charges for recruiting fighters for the insurgency against U.S. forces in Iraq. The younger Kouachi met the third gunman involved in last week's terror spree, Amedy Coulibaly, while in jail after his initial arrest in the recruitment case in 2005, the Associated Press reported.
-- The three gunmen slain in police operations on Friday were known to international security monitors and were all on the U.S. and British no-fly lists that bar air travel by suspected terrorists. The Kouachi brothers told bystanders at the magazine attack that they were aligned with AQAP and Coulibaly can be seen pledging allegiance to the Islamic State extremist group in a video that surfaced on the Internet after his death.
-- Said Kouachi returned from Yemen in 2011 with $20,000 provided by AQAP to help finance the attacks carried out last week, CBS News reported Tuesday. French police union spokesman Christophe Crepin told journalists in Paris that an international hunt is on for several suspects in the funding of the operations.
-- Coulibaly, 32, shot and killed a policewoman in the Montrouge area of Paris a day after the magazine attack and set off a car bomb in Villejuif in an attempt to divert security forces searching for the Kouachi brothers, the AP said it was told by a French police source.
Fugitive Paris terror cell suspect Hayat Boumeddiene is reported to be the woman shown at right in this Jan. 2 photo taken at an Istanbul airport departure counter.
-- The brothers and Coulibaly belonged to a terror cell that consisted of eight to 10 members, including Coulibaly's companion, 26-year-old Hayat Boumeddiene. She and at least five other suspected accomplices may still be at large, police told the AP.
-- Turkish authorities have disclosed that Boumeddiene appears to have traveled to Istanbul on Jan. 1 and crossed into Syria ahead of the terrorist strikes. Police were searching around Paris on Tuesday for a Mini Cooper registered to Boumeddiene.
-- A Frenchman of Haitian origin, Fritz Jolie Joaquin, was taken into custody in Bulgaria on Jan. 1 as he attempted to cross into Turkey at the Kapitan Andreevo border crossing, a prosecutor in the Bulgarian capital, Sofia, reported Monday. European authorities issued an arrest warrant for Joaquin, 28, on Monday in connection with reports he kidnapped his 3-year-old son and was intending to travel to Syria. Police have said they believe Joaquin is a relative of the Kouachi brothers.
-- In apparent response to reports that the gunmen involved in last week's attacks were radicalized while in French custody, Prime Minister Manuel Valls called Tuesday for intensified surveillance of imprisoned radicals.
-- Valls also reported that the high-powered weapons used in the slayings last week had been brought in from abroad, although he did not say from what country or bankrolling organization.
French Prime Minister Manuel Valls gave an impassioned address at the National Assembly on Tuesday, telling lawmakers that France was at "war with terrorism, jihadism and radicalism."
I don't know what's reasonable in this stupid article in which author uses term 'Western culture' and writing some nonsense about Christianity without even realizing that's not 'Western culture' but 'European Catholic culture' which grew on on the antic Roman and Greek cultures. And this culture was actively fighting with Islam culture since the Muhammad times. He writes some stupid things when thousands of Christians are being killed by Islamists all around the world, twelve French journalists is nothing compared to those numbers. Sorry for sounding harsh but that's the truth no matter how you look at things. lol, this guy even tries to portray what happened in Paris with some rage massacres happening in Europe!
The basic difference is poeple like this guy would like to fight with caricatures in the newspapers without even realising that there are thousands of extremists Muslims who are ready to die right now for their faith fighting right now. And he probably even met them on the streets of his city in Britain without even realising that!
The basic difference is poeple like this guy would like to fight with caricatures in the newspapers without even realising that there are thousands of extremists Muslims who are ready to die right now for their faith fighting right now. And he probably even met them on the streets of his city in Britain without even realising that!
plawolf
Lieutenant General
You are angry at the author's deliberate simplification and misrepresentation of Christianity and western culture? Well good, because now you have a measure of understanding of what Muslims are subjected to all the time.
All Mark Steel did was apply the style and substance of the overwhelming majority of western reporting on Islam and Islamic countries to show how the Christian West would look in this twisted mirror of its own making.
That was the whole point, but unfortunately it seems to be lost on you.
It takes two sides to have a fight.
If you were to count how many Muslims have died at Christian or Jewish hands all over the world, the total would be an order of magnitude greater than a few thousand. How does your equation tally up when you add those figures?
The Paris attackers are about as representative of ordinary Muslims as the perpetrators or those 'rage massacres' in Europe are of Christianity.
If anything, the Paris attackers had more to be angry about, and would fit that ' rage massacre' description far better than the cold, calculation and seemingly motiveless attacks you describe as 'rage massacres'.
/QUOTE]The basic difference is poeple like this guy would like to fight with caricatures in the newspapers without even realising that there are thousands of extremists Muslims who are ready to die right now for their faith fighting right now. And he probably even met them on the streets of his city in Britain without even realising that! [/QUOTE]
You mock him for using words and caricatures. So is your solution for him to pick up a Kalashnikov instead? Maybe shoot some unfunny 'Muslims sympathisers' who dared to profane your culture and faith with words?
Interestingly, do you know who the biggest advocates of this Christians Vs Muslims clash of cultures nonsense are? The hate preachers of the Islamic State. Mighty fine company you are keeping.
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AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Well here's where it begins where people will start to think about how there's a line between free speech and yelling "fire" in a theater. When you're dealing with people who don't care for other's beliefs or the law, how much will other people pay for what another believes?
Brumby
Major
The law will pursue to the fullest extend possible irresponsible behaviour like yelling "fire" if there is no such cause. That is how a lawful society is meant to operate. When people start to take actions into their own hands like burning churches in protest that is lawlessness in action. You have a strange way of making a point of what is meant to follow the law.
broadsword
Brigadier
To enjoy the freedom to mock another religion while welcoming their followers' migration into the country. WTH! So messed up. Something has got to give.