taiwan missile defense and mainland missile
- Thread starter s002wjh
- Start date
you cant take something thats already yours. liberate would be a much more suitable word
Warned member: zighail
Reason: Posting anti-us/west flamebait.
zighail, since you are new you need to read the forum rules before you post again. If you desire to continue to post as you have you need to find a different forum. Your type of flamebait posting is not allowed here. For your offense you are granted a one week holiday away from SDF. While you are out read the forum rules..then abide by them.
FORUM RULES: Things to Remember Before Posting, important, please read!
bd popeye super moderator
Franticfrank
New Member
The Taiwanese have become highly skilled at operating their aircraft from highways around the island and with forewarning of any invasion, these aircraft would pose a considerable threat to any landing force. It would be difficult to find the improvised airfields and destroy them. This is a common plan used to defeat a superior enemy - the Swedish and Swiss have planned on this for decades.
Still, if China carried out a conventional or nuclear attack against Taiwan, I wonder how enthusiastic the American people would be about providing assistance -. Let's hope the Chinese don't attempt to take the island, the amount of military and civilian casualties would be unimaginable.
Still, if China carried out a conventional or nuclear attack against Taiwan, I wonder how enthusiastic the American people would be about providing assistance -. Let's hope the Chinese don't attempt to take the island, the amount of military and civilian casualties would be unimaginable.
vesicles
Colonel
The moment that they have to start using these highways for their fighters means that their real airfields, along with the majority of their AF, have been destroyed. If they can't be effective in protecting their most critical elements in their national defense network at full strength, how do you expect them to be effective with a few fighters left and a short stretch of highway? They cannot build permanent and sophisticated facilities near the highway for supporting their operations because the whole point of all this is to hide themselves and avoid detection. Any extensive structure will be spotted and become targets. So they won't have facilities they will need to support their fighters. What happens when they finish all the missiles, fuel, food, etc. they store in limited storage space near the highway before the conflict begins? What happens when their fighters need maintenance? even if they use caves in the mountains, that won;t be effective. These facilities must be remote to avoid being detected. This would put huge strain on re-supplying them when their initial stash has been used up. Any extensive supply line will be detected immediately since it's only a small island and all the mountain roads will automatically become the main focus of extensive search for the hide-outs. One easy way of beating these hide-outs would be to block/destroy all the main arteries on the island, main highways, rail roads, etc. With their supply line disrupted, the planes will be sitting ducks in no time. IMHO, these highway stuff is only for show and to boost moral. By the time they have to resort to this kind of tactics, they have already lost.
Last edited:
I really don't think China and Taiwan will go to war unless something really drastic happens. Not saying that it is such a drastic event, but what would Taiwan do if China and Japan did come to blows over the Diaoyutai/Senkakus? Would Taiwan just sit it out? Covertly help one side or the other with intelligence etc? I am having a hard time picturing Taiwan actively partaking militarily in such a conflict despite their water cannon duel with Japan.
The armament shopping by Taiwan is clearly symbolic. It is asking for weapons the US won't sell and doesn't buy many of the weapons the US wants to sell. This is quite reasonable as the time for war between China and Taiwan has passed long ago. So all those preparations for using highways in time of war are symbolic too.
vesicles
Colonel
I agree that a war between the Mainland and Taiwan is highly unlikely, mainly because there is no need for it. There are so many different ways for the mainland to achieve its goals without the actual fighting. I also agree that Taiwan will most likely not get physically involved in any conflict between China and Japan over Diaoyu island. Under the table, that would be another story. Covertly helping China, or even simply moral support, might be a possibility. Although Taiwan and the Mainland have their differences, their view on the island is the same.
Taiwan will be secretly pressured by the US to accept an inferior (albeit semi-autonomous) status within the PRC.
US would rather save face by claiming a moral victory after China-Taiwan unification rather than a complete defeat of Communist annexation of a capitalist/free territory. That moral victory being US securing Taiwan's semi-autonomous status within the PRC akin to Hong Kong, while being dejure sovereign territory of China.
We should see a secret negotiation to the question of Taiwan between China and US, akin to the 1982 Sino-British Joint Declaration which settled the transfer of sovereignty of HK from UK to PRC. Protection of Taiwan's capitalistic characteristic is probably the model US would demand if Taiwan were to become part of China and if US were to promise not to intervene in such Chinese military annexation efforts.
US would rather save face by claiming a moral victory after China-Taiwan unification rather than a complete defeat of Communist annexation of a capitalist/free territory. That moral victory being US securing Taiwan's semi-autonomous status within the PRC akin to Hong Kong, while being dejure sovereign territory of China.
We should see a secret negotiation to the question of Taiwan between China and US, akin to the 1982 Sino-British Joint Declaration which settled the transfer of sovereignty of HK from UK to PRC. Protection of Taiwan's capitalistic characteristic is probably the model US would demand if Taiwan were to become part of China and if US were to promise not to intervene in such Chinese military annexation efforts.
Last edited:
I can see how the US may frame a peaceful China-Taiwan re-unification in a patronizing manner but I don't think Taiwan is the US' or anyone else's to negotiate away to or from China.
Hong Kong was only a city and a colony ceded by China to Britain at that, at no time was it ever an independent entity by definition or by fact. Taiwan is one side of the Chinese civil war, the losing side even if the loss was not total, and has always been an independent entity by fact and by definition, as its government once had and still claims to represent all of China.
Any negotiations about the future of Taiwan will be among the people and rulers of Taiwan first, then the rulers of the rest of China second.