Taiwan Military News, Reports, Data, etc.

Finn McCool

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What is the status of the stuff Taiwan has already ordered? Have the P-3s, Pac-3s etc. been delivered? What about the UH-60s? Lastly I have never recieved a satisfactory answer to wheter or not the ROCAF got it's hands on enough AIM-120s. Because for a while they only had about 100.
 

Mr T

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What is the status of the stuff Taiwan has already ordered? Have the P-3s, Pac-3s etc. been delivered?

Finn, I know you don't comment on this thread regularly, but you can normally find the answer to most questions on procurement by checking old pages.

PAC-3 batteries only had their congressional notifications last year - deliveries may start in 2011. The P-3C Orion contract was signed only a few months ago - deliveries will start in 2012 or 2013 and be completed by 2015.

What about the UH-60s?

Approval is probably going to come before the end of the year.

Lastly I have never recieved a satisfactory answer to wheter or not the ROCAF got it's hands on enough AIM-120s. Because for a while they only had about 100.

Taiwan has 120 AIM-120C-5s in service plus 218 AIM-120-C-7s ordered. Only you know whether you consider that "enough" or not.

Or are you saying that you don't know what "enough" is and are asking for views?
 
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Skywatcher

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The reason why only part of the IDF fleet is being upgraded is that you first want to see if the upgrade works/is worth the cost and trouble before doing a whole fleet upgrade. No one wants to ground the entire fleet and tear out the mistakes.
 

Mr T

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that discusses the possibility of more arms sales to Taiwan later this year.

Washington sources say that Wang Yi (王毅), director of China’s Taiwan Affairs Office, will be in the US next week for talks with the US State Department about potential future arms sales to Taiwan.

The visit comes amid speculation that the administration of US President Barack Obama is on the verge of deciding to sell F-16 fighter aircraft and diesel submarines to Taipei.

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However, a source with close ties to the State Department and Taiwan said that Wang would visit and that the weapons sales would be high on his agenda.

Another source said that President Ma Ying-jeou (馬英九) had greatly pleased the Obama administration with his pro-China policies that have reduced tensions across the Taiwan Strait and there was an inclination to help him because China continues a massive arms buildup and it has not reduced the number of missiles it has pointed at Taiwan.

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In addition to the F-16s, Taiwan also wants eight diesel submarines, but may be ready to build the vessels in Taiwan from US plans and with US-supplied weapons and communications equipment.

There has been speculation that an announcement on the diesel submarines may come in August.

Beijing may have decided to send Wang to Washington following reports earlier this month that there was a general consensus on Capitol Hill in favor of selling F-16s to Taiwan.

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For its part, the Obama administration has remained very quiet on the subject.

However, Kurt Campbell, speaking during his Senate confirmation hearing last week as assistant secretary of state for East Asian affairs, said there were “discussions under way right now” on the outstanding request for arms sales to Taiwan.

Democratic Senator Jim Webb, chairman of the Foreign Relations Asia subcommittee, asked Campbell what he thought about supplying Taiwan with F-16 fighters, Black Hawk helicopters and design assistance for diesel electric submarines.

“There are specifics — discussions under way right now. I’m not in the Department of State, so I’m not going to comment on them,” Campbell said.

His remarks were the first official confirmation that the Obama administration is working on future arms sales to Taiwan.

We will have to see what happens, but if movement occurs on the new submarine design phase it will be interesting to see whether it's to enable a build in Taiwan or the US.
 
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adeptitus

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"TAIPEI - TAIWAN has completed the design of its own third-generation fighter jet with Russian expertise, to make up for a scuppered US purchase deal, a newspaper report said on Friday.

The fighter, developed by Taiwan's government-owned Aerospace Industrial Development Corporation (AIDC), is based on the F-35 Lightning II joint strike fighter (JSF) being developed for the US Air Force, the China Times said."



My fingers are twitching to photoshop a ROC flag on a Yak-141, but that would just be silly. As much as I support AIDC and domestic industry, I'll believe this one when I see it.
 

Semi-Lobster

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"TAIPEI - TAIWAN has completed the design of its own third-generation fighter jet with Russian expertise, to make up for a scuppered US purchase deal, a newspaper report said on Friday.

The fighter, developed by Taiwan's government-owned Aerospace Industrial Development Corporation (AIDC), is based on the F-35 Lightning II joint strike fighter (JSF) being developed for the US Air Force, the China Times said."



My fingers are twitching to photoshop a ROC flag on a Yak-141, but that would just be silly. As much as I support AIDC and domestic industry, I'll believe this one when I see it.

kliu0 posted a similar article 4 days ago, it would be nice to think that AIDC has something in the works just in case the F-16 deal doesn't go through but Russian involvement... well thats a bit strange if you ask me.
 

Finn McCool

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Hahaha it's based on the F-35 and its built with Russian help? Thats just hilarious.

The "buzz" on this isn't giving me confidence in the state of AIDCs new fighter project.
 

Mashan

New Member
Hahaha it's based on the F-35 and its built with Russian help? Thats just hilarious.

The "buzz" on this isn't giving me confidence in the state of AIDCs new fighter project.

Yeah, I wonder if we the US knows about them working with the Russian, since Taiwan uses a lot of US equipments. Will the design be using US/EU engine and electronics?

Also I heard the company that build and currently maintains the IDF is now talking with Chinese companies to joint the project for the new Chinese commercial airliner.
 

Finn McCool

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Registered Member
Yeah, I wonder if we the US knows about them working with the Russian, since Taiwan uses a lot of US equipments. Will the design be using US/EU engine and electronics?

Mashan I doubt this project even exists in a form anything close to what this article says it does. It is probable the AIDC is working on something to take the place of the F-16 deal if it falls through. But any reports of the Russians helping them is most likely completely false. Especially if the program is "Based of the F-35". Furthermore the idea that the aircraft is based in any meaningful way off of the F-35 is highly suspect to me. It sounds like some reporter just strung some buzzwords like "Russian Assistance" and "F-35" together in a very amateurish attempt at making up an "inside scoop".
 

Mashan

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Mashan I doubt this project even exists in a form anything close to what this article says it does. It is probable the AIDC is working on something to take the place of the F-16 deal if it falls through. But any reports of the Russians helping them is most likely completely false. Especially if the program is "Based of the F-35". Furthermore the idea that the aircraft is based in any meaningful way off of the F-35 is highly suspect to me. It sounds like some reporter just strung some buzzwords like "Russian Assistance" and "F-35" together in a very amateurish attempt at making up an "inside scoop".

Ditto, someone wants to make a quick buck.
 
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