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Mike North

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Well, wouldn't any sort of airborne radar be able to "see over" the superstructure and onto the missile canisters? That sort of arrangement could fool a surface combatant, but a UAV, J-16/Su-30MKK or one of the High New planes is a different story.

Sorry for the late reply, just noticed this post.
I think the idea is to make the ship stealthy against the fairly small radar in the tip of a sea skimming ASM. Thats probably reasonable and worth the effort.
 

Skywatcher

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I think the idea is to make the ship stealthy against the fairly small radar in the tip of a sea skimming ASM. Thats probably reasonable and worth the effort.

At that point, why not just go the full hog and provide coverings and hatches to the superstructure and canisters?
 

Mike North

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At that point, why not just go the full hog and provide coverings and hatches to the superstructure and canisters?
I'm guessing they have done tests and discovered that you cant hide ships from maritime patrol planes or frigate and destroyers. No point in spending the money unless you get results you want. If you fly on a jetliner over the ocean you can see and identify ships at great distance with the naked eye. The sensors in missiles are by comparison very small and can be beaten by stealth. Navies know there is nothing they can do to hide surface combatants but there is a lot they can do to prevent them from being blown up.
 

Skywatcher

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I'm guessing they have done tests and discovered that you cant hide ships from maritime patrol planes or frigate and destroyers. No point in spending the money unless you get results you want. If you fly on a jetliner over the ocean you can see and identify ships at great distance with the naked eye. The sensors in missiles are by comparison very small and can be beaten by stealth. Navies know there is nothing they can do to hide surface combatants but there is a lot they can do to prevent them from being blown up.

That assumes that the PLAN/PLAAF can't datalink say, a Y-8Q, to a YJ-83 missile to provide midcourse updates on the Tuo River Corvette's location.

Again, as I've said, they should have gone with a monohull for the corvette (it'd be just as fast, and at least more damage resistant).
 
now I read
China opposes any official contact, military links between US and Taiwan
Xinhua| 2017-09-27 13:30:37
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China resolutely opposes any official contact and military links between the United States and Taiwan, Ma Xiaoguang, spokesman for the State Council Taiwan Affairs Office, said Wednesday.

Ma made the comments when asked about the U.S. National Defense Authorization Act, which includes a provision on mutual warship docking between Taiwan and the United States

"The Taiwan issue concerns China's sovereignty and territorial integrity and is also the most important and sensitive issue in China-U.S. relations," Ma said.

The spokesman said that China's stance remained clear and consistent.
 

Jeff Head

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Umm, doesn't leaving the AShM launch canisters uncovered kind of defeat the whole purpose of stealth?
Not at all. A large portion of the canisters are covered by the sloping side walls that come well up on them.

This is far better than just having them sit on an open area of the deck which was the old way of doing things.

They could spend a lot more money and hide them completely and simply open doors in the side to expose the missiles...but for this size ship, and for where it intends to operate, that is probably not necessary. These ships are mean to be able to get out a short distance into the straits and then fire a large salvo of missiles at large and opportune enemy targets before they either can scurry back to base or around the island, or get destroyed.

They are meant to give a lot more than they take and therefore act as a deterrent.

If they had 16 of these vessels in four four ship flotillas, they would pose a significant threat to any group attempting to cross the straits.
 

Blitzo

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Not at all. A large portion of the canisters are covered by the sloping side walls that come well up on them.

This is far better than just having them sit on an open area of the deck which was the old way of doing things.

They could spend a lot more money and hide them completely and simply open doors in the side to expose the missiles...but for this size ship, and for where it intends to operate, that is probably not necessary. These ships are mean to be able to get out a short distance into the straits and then fire a large salvo of missiles at large and opportune enemy targets before they either can scurry back to base or around the island, or get destroyed.

They are meant to give a lot more than they take and therefore act as a deterrent.

If they had 16 of these vessels in four four ship flotillas, they would pose a significant threat to any group attempting to cross the straits.


It is a little bit bizarre that the ROC Navy have yet to build any additional ships of the class.

Last I heard they were planning on revising the design with air defence capabilities including SAMs and a 3d radar, supposedly with construction possibly starting this year... but I feel like that will be taking what is already a fairly heavily loaded and armed corvette/missile boat and turning it into something... else.
 
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