MwRYum
Major
If you talk about those who'd stick it against China...
India doesn't own the full set of tech, same for S.Korea.
That leaves Japan, who is increasingly hostile against China and with an increasing popularity to do so.
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If you talk about those who'd stick it against China...
India doesn't own the full set of tech, same for S.Korea.
That leaves Japan, who is increasingly hostile against China and with an increasing popularity to do so.
Mr T
Senior Member
There were discussions to sell decommissioned submarines to Taiwan (after being refitted in the US) some years ago, but these fell through when there was a change in the cabinet (not government). But I'm not so sure the Japanese would build submarines for Taiwan.
I think Taiwan will try to do something itself but with foreign assistance. That would be easier than trying to buy new boats off the shelf.
Skywatcher
Captain
Considering how much a foreign bought SSK would cost, the ROCN would be better off which a bunch of 1,000 tons home built SSKs rather than several foreign 2,000-3,000 submarines (so a Y-8Q, Type 095 SSN or 056 corvette sinking one sub won't have such a big impact)
MwRYum
Major
Japanese cabinet has long been known to have a life expectancy of a house fly...and very likely to change again soon if the current opposition have their way...and worse, they're overtly hawkish against China.
Red___Sword
Junior Member
You are correct, but one thing you underestimated is the reliance Japan on China these crazy days. I would expact more hostile rhetoric and even some hostile "small moves", but not the ones which piss off PRC outright.
PS. - Damn! I didn't expect BP would used to consider J-10 not real! Guess J-8 dose make a trademark for PLAAF for a long time.
PSS.: Then believe in ASBM man!
antiterror13
Brigadier
Do you guys think it would be better for Taiwan to reunite with China NOW while Taiwan still has some bargaining power. Over time the gap in technology and military strength will get bigger and bigger until Taiwan has no bargaining power at all (in 20 years).
antiterror13
Brigadier
^^^ I predicted Pres Obama would not run for a second term...I'm wrong on that. I did not believe the J-10 was real...There maybe others..
woww, did you write those prediction in this forum ? didn't you believe J-10 was real ?
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Taiwan will always have some bargaining power no matter how much the military balance tips in the mainland's favor.
Fighting a war to retake Taiwan is a pyrrhic victory at best for China.
However, in broad terms you are correct, the longer Taiwan waits, the weaker their bargaining power becomes, but since China wants Taiwan to want to reunit with the mainland, it will always offer a good deal.
On the one hand, there is the possibility that as China grows, Taiwan might actually get more by waiting, as China would be able to afford to offer more sweeteners, like maybe tax breaks and even subsidies etc.
But there will come point when talk of independence would become unthinkable because of the gulf in military might between the two. At that point, the nature of negotiations will automatically changed from whether to reunite to under what terms.
The key for Taiwan to get the best deal is to strike it before that point is reached to maximise the benefits they could get from reunification.
MwRYum
Major
But now most of them would want nothing to do with Mainland at all, they'd rather join the US or Japan...