Skywatcher
Captain
Even if the F-2 was available, no one at the MoD would chose it (seriously, who's going to pay over $100 million for a medium, standard issue single engine fighter)?
Taiwan Military News, Reports, Data, etc.
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Aero_Wing_32
Junior Member
Man.. you guys take things way to seriously... I've been laughing my a** off watching this whole thing...
No offence, but you guys need to take a chill pill.
As long as Taiwan gets new fighter jets I'm happy
How about we talk about non-fighter jet related topics ~~
You guys still realize that the Navy and Army still exist right?
Same here, and I really wonder which country will be the first to resume fighters sales to the ROC...
I also wonder why MA is wasting years given the fact that Obama Administration has frozen such arm sales with Taiwan. That s clear and neat now.
Since when?.. Have you seen this..?? It's just an editorial..follow the link for the full story!
And have you see this???
Go to page 71
The Obama administration in 2010.. has Oked for sale to Taiwan..
(114) PAC-3 missile defense missiles
(60) UH-60M Black Hawk utility helicopters
(12) Harpoon Block II anti-ship telemetry (training) missiles
(60) MIDS (follow-on technical support for Posheng C4 systems)
(2) Osprey-class mine hunting ships (refurbished and upgraded)
Aero_Wing_32
Junior Member
MwRYum
Major
How about when China is weaken again, to the kind of pathetic state it was 40 years ago? Until then, most won't wish to sour the ties with China.
Of course, the US is an exception, but it has been too long since the US sold anything that'd give Taiwan decisive advantage.
At the end of the day, Taiwan's hope would best lie on indigenous weapons industry, but that's the weakest of all the links...
Semi-Lobster
Junior Member
If Taiwan had properly supported and invested into AIDC during the 90s instead of letting it atrophy into the pathetic state its in now, they wouldn't be in this mess in the first place! Waiting for more F-16s was a political game the government was playing that they evidently have lost rather then supporting their indigenous aerospace industry. As of now, it would take a LOT of work and money to restart any IDF production and any sort of 'new' fighter design AIDC may claim it has can probably be dismissed as nothing more than a few computer models and sketches and would be over a decade away from any sort of flight test.
I have worked with a few former AIDC technical people. alot of them were drawn back from US to work on IDF. really sharp guys.
too bad the political decision to moth ball the capability really guted AIDC. as for so many things in Taiwan, AIDC became a political tool instead of a serious opening into Aerospace industry.
pugachev_diver
Banned Idiot
It is really hard for Taiwan, a small island, to obtain strong capabilities in the heavy industry sector. Japan and South Korea are kind odd-balls, they received fully fledged support from the Americans. But even so, they still don;t have a complete supply chain, majority of the materials and extremely high tech components still come from abroad. Taiwan is in an even worse condition. They are still considered to be Chinese by the Americans up until the early 90s, which is pretty unfortunate to them as Americans don;t want to see China rise due to its potential. Japan and South Korea are seen as close allies by the Americans, whereas Taiwan is only a temporary one. On top of this, due to Taiwan's relatively poor heavy industry and especially lack of plentiful of natural resources, it would be hard for them to develop anything too serious to be considered by the mainland.
It is kind of sad seeing this build up across the strait, but at the same time, mainland China wouldn't be as advanced as it is today without Taiwan acting as a catalyst.
pugachev_diver
Banned Idiot
I personally have talked to few engineers from Taiwan's central academy of technology (中科院, apparently mainland uses the same term and same facility exists), they told me whenever they have to research into missile and satellite fields, they would have to read books from mainland. No where else are there books on those fields written in Chinese.