Syrian Civil War

@Index Did you get your comment deleted in #3?

Anyway,

Michael90 said:

The main question is that why is Turkey not providing manpads/anti air defences to the rebels ? You can only control what is under you, you can't control what others do. So complaining and looking for sympathy doesn't change ground realities.

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1)This whole operation was a rush job, likely stemming from Israel pulling out of Lebanon this quickly. They probably originally though to wait for Assad's rule to corrode further before attacking.

2)Underestimation of air resistance or assistance in general provided by outside powers (might tie in to point 1).

3)Idiotic/incompetent leadership. If they were planning to pull this stunt, they should have done so sooner, when Russia is still stalemated and when Israel had just started with Lebanon (again might tie in the points 1&2).

Their saving grace is that Assad is more incompetent than they're, which is probably why they moved so to begin with (tie in again with the points above).

People need to understand that the opposition is composed of two major groups:

- Syrian National Army which is partly trained and supplied by Turkiye, mainly to hold a bufferzone for refugees and to hold back PKK.
- HTS not supported by Turkiye.

Everything south of Aleppo is HTS territory while the north belongs to SNA. Hence no Turkish support for HTS. Especially not now as they've captured a lot of territory so the danger of refugees heading towards Turkiye is negligible. Last time it happened, the Turks got directly involved on the ground and it led to 'Operation Spring Shield'

sequ said:

People need to understand that the opposition is composed of two major groups:

- Syrian National Army which is partly trained and supplied by Turkiye, mainly to hold a bufferzone for refugees and to hold back PKK.
- HTS not supported by Turkiye.

Everything south of Aleppo is HTS territory while the north belongs to SNA. Hence no Turkish support for HTS. Especially not now as they've captured a lot of territory so the danger of refugees heading towards Turkiye is negligible. Last time it happened, the Turks got directly involved on the ground and it led to 'Operation Spring Shield'

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Lmao nice lie.

CannedFish said:

3)Idiotic/incompetent leadership. If they were planning to pull this stunt, they should have done so sooner, when Russia is still stalemated and when Israel had just started with Lebanon (again might tie in the points 1&2).

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Agree. I believe they should have started this operation when Israel was still pummeling Hezbollahs postions in Lebanon and raids in syria tying down Hezbollah and Iranian proxies in the region. That way there would have been no chance for these groups to send reinforcements to the front against them. However, now that a seize fire has been signed, there is still a little possibility Hezbollah can send some fighters to assist Assad in Syria, though that's unlikely since they are still worried Israel can use this opportunity to further degrade them in lebanon.

sequ said:

Intentionally bombing a hospital is not collateral damage

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Yeah, as i said before, the stronger side with airpower gets to decide which targets to strike( israel and Russia did the same), since if they believe some fighters are using a hospital/ health centre /mosque to hide then they will hit it. They get to decide what they do. Reason i said you can only control what you do not what others do.
Russia has used this scorched earth strategy several times in Syria by razing to the ground entire cities/towns when rebels have taken control of these towns/cities. It has actually worked well for Russia despite the heavy cicilian casualties for Syrians. The same tactic they used to suppressed Chechenya muslim rebellion against Russian rule. They destroyed them indiscriminately, but it actually worked at the end of the day since the rebellion and people couldnt withstand it at a certain point. So why change a winning solution. It's sad for civilians but those are the realities of war.
I'm not supporting Russia here, just making some observations and trying to look at things from factual perspective.

Dozens of assad regime officers and soldiers captured:

A 14-year-old boy was released from assad's prison after being detained for 8 months.

sequ said:

russia/assad acting like israel by bombing hospitals:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1863557313316987078

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1863557943033004049

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Give Russia a week or two to adjust and see how those "freedom loving " head choppers will be wishing they had stayed in Idlib .

20 FAB 500s a day raining in Idlib and Aleppo will be enough to adjust HTS
/SNA attitude and morale.

Around 1/4 of regime heavy equipement losses and this time there will be no replenishment from russia.

sequ said:

Intentionally bombing a hospital is not collateral damage.

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you only avoid collateral damage if the world strongest media network/allied not yet totally again you , not yet view you as sworn enemy

you don't if they already did

if not even if you respect "war rules" they still spin it into war crime > you end up become a fake harmless punching bag evil doesn't even have a set of real evil teeth

many US/west enemy nation fall into this traps repeatly over and over again