Submarines for the Argentine Navy

Kurt

Kurt

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MiG-29 said:
I do understand you, i can consider what you mean specially now that Argentina is building a nuclear submarine, in Latin America our governments are very corrupt and up to a degree not militaristic, imagine that in the 1980s, Israel offered to Mexico a Kfir manufacturing line in 1980, however our government rejected the offer.
In the early 2000s, Russia offered the Mi-8 license to Mexico to make Mi-17s in Mexico, the government rejected that offer.

i mean would had the government accepted today we would probably building Kfirs for South America, however our politicians considered they did not want to barter with Israel, because the deal was the Kfir line in exchange of oil, the mexican government decided to buy F-5s and simply get the cash for the oil we sold to Israel
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With the Mi-8 was the same.

Antonov also offered the manufacture of An-32s in Mexico, but our government also rejected the offer, the reason was they do not want to invest monies, they are happy letting GE or Honeywell do the research in Mexico, giving jobs to mexican engineers and investment and saving in research centers.


But i think in the case of Argentina and Brazil is different, you really want to build your own designs, but i think Argentina should do like Mexico and Brazil get more companies investing in Argentina like we do in Mexico, Today Bombardier, Beechcraft, Gulfstream, MD helicopters, GE, Honeywell, ITP are doing manufaturing and research in mexico but we lack real heavy weights like Brazil has in Embraer or you did with FAMA.

South America should do similar to brazil and cooperate more i think C-390 is a good example.

In future years perhaps a common aircraft carrier or nuclear sub could appear but i understand in latin american our governments sometimes are not really doing enough research as other nations do.
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Mexico, so close to the US and so far from God. The US "backyard" can achieve a lot if they stick together, will they?
 
asif iqbal

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Denis_469 said:
In Japan constitution not work total:
Export from Japan from 1970 to 1991:
Bangladesh 1 Khan Jahan Ali Tanker (1982) 1983 1
China 3 Jinhou Tanker (1987) 1989-1990 (3)
Dominican Republic (1) MU-2 Light transport ac (1985) 1985 (1) No. could be 3; supplier uncertain, MU-2J version
Gabon 2 YS-11A Transport aircraft (1968) 1971 2 Incl for civilian use
Iran 5 Iran Ajr Landing ship (1978) 1980 5 Officially delivered for civil use but taken over by Navy
Myanmar 2 Sinde Landing craft (1975) 1978 2
Philippines 2 Tirad Pass Patrol craft (1973) 1974 2 'War Reparations Programme' (for WW-2) aid; for coast guard
3 LCU-1466 Landing craft 1975 1979 3 Ex-Japanese; modernized before delivery
3 LST-1 Landing ship 1978 1979 3 Ex-Japanese; modernized before delivery
Sierra Leone 3 Pompoli Landing craft (1978) 1980 3
Sweden (10) MU-2 Light transport ac (1983) 1985 (10) For target-towing and EW training; operated by civilian company for Swedish armed forces
Taiwan (17) F-104G Starfighter FGA aircraft (1985) 1986 (17) Ex-Japanese; F-104J version
(5) F-104G Starfighter FGA aircraft 1985 1986 (5) Ex-Japanese; F-104DJ version

And after 1991 year Japan like made export weapons and armaments.

P.S.: landing ships is warships like.
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exactly what i just said, this is from arms trader you just copied and pasted and landing warship is not a warship they came unarmed
 
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antiterror13

Brigadier
Denis_469 said:
Yes, of course.
SS-583 - commisioned 1990, decomissioned 2009. Live is 19 year.
SS-584 - commisioned 1991, decomissioned 2010. Live is 19 year.
SS-585 - commisioned 1992, decomissioned 2011. Live is 19 year.
SS-586 - commisioned 1993, decomissioned 2012. Live is 19 year.

Type "Yushio" (before "Harushio") have live from 17 (SS-582) to 21 year (SS-579).

About JMSDF I know, but really it is IJN.
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No, it has got anything to do with the poor quality. Japanese subs quality is top notch, one of the best.

Japanese policy is to have 19 active submarines, so they have to build one a year and decommission the oldest one which would be only 19 years old. They all put in reserve state. Trust me they are in very very good condition, perhaps better than some Chinese subs and definitely better than most Asian subs.
 
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