Star Wars & Sc-Fi Talk

The pyi corp member where definately the evil ones

Miragedriver said:

Is it just me, or do theEarth Force uniforns from Babylon 5 look very facist type? Good series, but the special effects look very "cheap".

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I think their uniforms looks similar to the new Battle Star Galactica series. I guess in the future double breasted and single breasted button suit coats as uniform will become out of fashion.

Equation said:

I think their uniforms looks similar to the new Battle Star Galactica series. I guess in the future double breasted and single breasted button suit coats as uniform will become out of fashion.

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Your right! I never noticed the similarity in uniforms. BSG was a great series; personally I feel one of the best Science Fiction shows ever broadcast. Even the last episode was not a “let down”.

I need to get myself one of those Cylon ladies...............

Equation said:

I was hoping the TV series will go into how John Connor (leader and commander of the human revolt) and his group of rebels will fight off the Terminators and thus end the ruling by the machines by Skynet.

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That's sounds more of movie trilogy or this is could be a HBO, Showtime, Starz, Netflix and maybe AMC type of series. Network censor regulations will hinder the sort of storytelling befitting this franchise. (sex, nudity, foul language and graphic violence)

I watched the Sarah Connor Chronicles I liked the first season the second season(maybe to long) it kind of dragged. But unfortunately the series was kind of doomed from the start this franchise and genre is kind of not suited for network tv. They never used this as an opportunity to explain why Skynet made female terminators. (Probably to use as bait against the resistance and other possible Psy-Opps)

AssassinsMace said:

Probably too expensive for the TV show.

I'm wondering what critical moment they're talking about in the first Terminator movie that the films goes one way where the TV show will go another. Every other character died. The only angle I can think of is the birth of Cyberdyne because of what's left of the first terminator sent back. But then they sort of played on it in the second and third movies.

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A series about winning the war against the machines in the future would get pricey fast. But they might be better off making only 10-12 episodes a season to keep cost down.

The scene in the club when Reese and the terminator finally find Sarah Connor because at that point in the movie we did not know with certainty if Reese was also there to kill her. Nor did we know that the terminator was a cyborg or its mission details.

The movies Kyle Reese is the Terminator sent back to kill Sarah Connor while the cyborg is there to protect her. John Connor in the future comes up with a radical plan to stop Skynet and its war against humans from coming into existence by preventing his birth by killing his own mother. Skynet sends a cyborg to protect Sarah so that she can give birth to John and the means that which fosters Skynet’s genesis. Somehow John will still be born the progeny of Sarah and Reese. Skynet will still come on line and John is still the messiah of mankind.

In T2 Miles Dyson is inspired to lay down the ground work to create Skynet from the broken remains of the first terminator. This ultimately cannot happen if the Skynet does not have a reason to make a time machine to send back a terminator and Kyle Reese to the past. If John Connor never existed Skynet does not accidently create itself.

The new TV series in the club during the fire fight with the Terminator. Kyle Reese acquires and escorts Sarah Connor out of the club and to be taken into custody of the police. This is what happened in the movie. But now instead of this Reese is too heavily engaged in his firefight with the Terminator to get to Sarah the police get to her first and put her into protective custody. She kept on the move in WitSec or something. Reese and the terminator play cat and mouse trying to eliminate each other while trying to find Sarah. Reese finally puts Sarah under his protection but they try to keep it platonic as long as possible and toss in a couple of love triangles. Skynet is in the embryotic stages of development as the show goes on. They try to figure out who will be John Connors father so that the messiah can be born to fight Skynet.

T3 and The Sarah Connor Chronicles both have Skynet come into existence without the work of Miles Dyson.

Equation said:

I think their uniforms looks similar to the new Battle Star Galactica series. I guess in the future double breasted and single breasted button suit coats as uniform will become out of fashion.

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I don't know in Star Trek and the New BSG they wore both styles and that Chinese style double breasted robe that Chow Yun Fat wore in Crouching Tiger and Hidden dragon.

BSG is more of a chef's jacket tucked in.

Miragedriver said:

Your right! I never noticed the similarity in uniforms. BSG was a great series; personally I feel one of the best Science Fiction shows ever broadcast. Even the last episode was not a “let down”.

I need to get myself one of those Cylon ladies...............

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The reason why they're similar in style is because of the fashion influence of the Western Navies which are known for wearing double breast jackets. Only in the Chinese and Russian military s wore double breasted service uniforms in all armed services.

I can't say where the BSG and Babylon five uniforms came from but the star trek wrath of Khan maroon monster took its look from classic Hollywood. The films costume designer was directly inspired by the 1938 film "The Prisoner of Zenda".
and the later "dress" TNG uniforms were direct homage to those.

I like the uniforms from Star Trek into Darkness, except for the Admirals. I mean it should be all white and the shoulders can be gray for the jacket. It looks like one giant stripe in the middle makes it look awkward...like some kind of high class door greeter at a fancy hotel.

Equation said:

I like the uniforms from Star Trek into Darkness, except for the Admirals. I mean it should be all white and the shoulders can be gray for the jacket. It looks like one giant stripe in the middle makes it look awkward...like some kind of high class door greeter at a fancy hotel.

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That uniform set is directly influenced by the original star trek motion picture set which was done often derided as space pajama.

Well if you go by Gene Rodenberry's wife, Majel Barrett, she said that he would not have approved of DS9 because it was about war. So by that I doubt Rodenberry would've liked the militaristic style uniforms in Into Darkness.

About the Terminator TV series and movies... it's been reported that they're looking for an actor to play John Connor in the movie. So that means it looks like a reimagining of the original story. So I don't know why they would've even bothered mentioning before that the TV series would go in another direction at a critical point from the movie. The whole story it seems is going in a different direction from the original.

This just in... The Mother of Dragons has been given the role of Sarah Connor.

Well if you go by Gene Rodenberry's wife, Majel Barrett, she said that he would not have approved of DS9 because it was about war. So by that I doubt Rodenberry would've liked the militaristic style uniforms in Into Darkness.

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I am not so Sure he would have approved of the Tone of it (DS9 or the latest movie), but the uniforms seem more or less harmless.
The Cut and style of the Uniforms in the Abrams verse is more or less modifications of sets seen in the TOS and the Motion picture. the style of hat was seen in the first star trek pilot the Cage which also introduced Capt. Pike. the Grey color and style was seen extensively in the motion picture. and Admiral Kirk's Grey and White resembles the admirals uniforms. the only major changes were the introduction of the Starfleet Academy class ring. so in a way Roddenberry did approve he approved of the sets they are derived from.