ABC78
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ABC78
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I've been having a lot of discussions about the Force Awakens with a friend who is a big EU fan. Like some of you guys here were all somewhat bewildered with the new names of the opposing forces the Rebel Alliance/New Republic (EU) is now being called the Resistance and the Empire is now the First Order. Groups don't usually change their names unless they need to rebrand only splinter factions and new groups need new names.
This is all speculation so I'm guessing the First Order's name might be a reference to the Emperor's first order after his death.(Star Wars Shattered Empire comic book summer 2015.) In Shattered Empire Imperial forces where on a galaxy wide vengeance campaign against planets that opposed the Emperor.
NOT IN SHATTERED EMPIRE MY SPECULATION
The Rebels and Empire after another decade or more of fighting they might have negotiated a peace and amnesty for the Imperial forces to lay down their arms. Somewhat similar to what happened at the end of the American Civil War and in the EU books. The New Republic or whatever the new collision government is called is like the Old Republic just before the Clone Wars. The politicians are ineffective and the military is weak from the demobilization of the veterans and downsizing from the bad experience under the Empire
A couple of years go by and the First Order rises out of the shadows made up of the Imperial forces that refused to lay down their arms. They launch a major offensive against the New Republic which is completely unprepared for and loses large portions of their territory and the government is on the verge of collapse. The systems under control of the First Order just happen to have large numbers of demobilized Rebels living on them and form a "Resistance" and are on their own to fight the First Order.
Well that's all I can guess to make sense to me.
This is all speculation so I'm guessing the First Order's name might be a reference to the Emperor's first order after his death.(Star Wars Shattered Empire comic book summer 2015.) In Shattered Empire Imperial forces where on a galaxy wide vengeance campaign against planets that opposed the Emperor.
NOT IN SHATTERED EMPIRE MY SPECULATION
The Rebels and Empire after another decade or more of fighting they might have negotiated a peace and amnesty for the Imperial forces to lay down their arms. Somewhat similar to what happened at the end of the American Civil War and in the EU books. The New Republic or whatever the new collision government is called is like the Old Republic just before the Clone Wars. The politicians are ineffective and the military is weak from the demobilization of the veterans and downsizing from the bad experience under the Empire
A couple of years go by and the First Order rises out of the shadows made up of the Imperial forces that refused to lay down their arms. They launch a major offensive against the New Republic which is completely unprepared for and loses large portions of their territory and the government is on the verge of collapse. The systems under control of the First Order just happen to have large numbers of demobilized Rebels living on them and form a "Resistance" and are on their own to fight the First Order.
Well that's all I can guess to make sense to me.
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AssassinsMace
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I haven't read any of the EU books but that was one of the earlier rumors of Force Awakens that the First Order is a splinter group with their red one-half colors. Which makes me wonder if C3PO fell into the hands of the First Order at some point because the few pictures that have come out have C3PO with one red arm.
On other sci fi talk... on my six day break in Rarotonga I had some time to properly do some reading... and I devoured The Three Body Problem and The Dark Forest. Both are great books, reminiscent in scale to Asimov or Arthur C Clarke.
They require a degree of patience to truly get into it, but the payoff at the end of both are immense. The battle in the second half of Dark Forest and the final showdown at the end of the book are both breathtaking and makes you want to lie down to absorb everything.
Highly recommended, you can appreciate how Three Body earned its Hugo win. It's probably unrealistic to expect Dark Forest to also win a Hugo or Nebula next year (despite it being superior to its predecessor, imo), but I wouldn't be surprised to see it getting at least a nomination.
I'm definitely anticipating the english translation of Death's End, the last book in the trilogy next year, as well as interested in seeing how they adapt Three Body into a movie.
They require a degree of patience to truly get into it, but the payoff at the end of both are immense. The battle in the second half of Dark Forest and the final showdown at the end of the book are both breathtaking and makes you want to lie down to absorb everything.
Highly recommended, you can appreciate how Three Body earned its Hugo win. It's probably unrealistic to expect Dark Forest to also win a Hugo or Nebula next year (despite it being superior to its predecessor, imo), but I wouldn't be surprised to see it getting at least a nomination.
I'm definitely anticipating the english translation of Death's End, the last book in the trilogy next year, as well as interested in seeing how they adapt Three Body into a movie.
AssassinsMace
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A little more exclusive footage of Star Wars Force Awakens in the Chinese trailer. I'm amazed Disney didn't edit out John Boyega for the Chinese.
The site where I got this warned people if you don't want to get spoiled don't watch it. That's exaggerated in my opinion since it didn't reveal any plot points. Just a little more X-Wing action and a little follow through of scenes seen already mainly.
The site where I got this warned people if you don't want to get spoiled don't watch it. That's exaggerated in my opinion since it didn't reveal any plot points. Just a little more X-Wing action and a little follow through of scenes seen already mainly.
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AssassinsMace
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Star Trek Beyond trailer that basically says nothing.
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Oh heck yeah!