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manqiangrexue

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I think the swimming coaches for China are all Chinese right? Before, Chinese swimmers would go to Australia to train. This is even more impressive.
No, they have foreign coaches, which it why it looked funny to me when the women's relay finished gold and I saw at least one white guy with the Chinese coaching team cheering his head off as happy as any Chinese person. Probably his bonus depended on it LOLOL
 

Randomuser

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No, they have foreign coaches, which it why it looked funny to me when the women's relay finished gold and I saw at least one white guy with the Chinese coaching team cheering his head off as happy as any Chinese person. Probably his bonus depended on it LOLOL
I recall some saying the biggest weakness of China sports are their coaches. Like for most sports, the coaches kinda suck. They aren't familiar with the latest trends, act in a way that doesn't encourage or bring out the most potential of their athletes etc.

It sucks to admit but thats why you see many Chinese athletes who have achieved anything in western sports, they usually have foreign coaches. Su Bingtian and Xie Zhenye both had american coaches.China really needs to develop better coaches otherwise their athletes will never reach their full potential like they deserve to.
 

manqiangrexue

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I recall some saying the biggest weakness of China sports are their coaches. Like for most sports, the coaches kinda suck. They aren't familiar with the latest trends, act in a way that doesn't encourage or bring out the most potential of their athletes etc.

It sucks to admit but thats why you see many Chinese athletes who have achieved anything in western sports, they usually have foreign coaches. Su Bingtian and Xie Zhenye both had american coaches.China really needs to develop better coaches otherwise their athletes will never reach their full potential like they deserve to.
Well, you generally get excellent coaches from retired champion athletes who pass on their experiences, so it has to start somewhere. Sometimes, the jump start is getting a foreign coach, minting a small group of champions, then they can retire to become the first generation of excellent Chinese coaches.
 

PiSigma

"the engineer"
I recall some saying the biggest weakness of China sports are their coaches. Like for most sports, the coaches kinda suck. They aren't familiar with the latest trends, act in a way that doesn't encourage or bring out the most potential of their athletes etc.

It sucks to admit but thats why you see many Chinese athletes who have achieved anything in western sports, they usually have foreign coaches. Su Bingtian and Xie Zhenye both had american coaches.China really needs to develop better coaches otherwise their athletes will never reach their full potential like they deserve to.
Need good athletes first before they can become good coaches. Australia's diving program really picked up after the 2000s because they hired Chinese diving gold medalists for coaches.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Oh my GOD, Dong Zhihao just won the men's 200m Breaststroke! I can't bloody believe it. I thought the American was gonna win since he dominated the semis yesterday. Dong was lagging very badly, like 6th place or some crap, then exploded in the last 50m and took second. I didn't think he could win today because usually if you've left things up in the air that far, then you've given your all while the American seemed routine and unstressed. Just now at the finals, a Dutch guy led the race pretty much the whole way and my hope was for him to stave off the American from that gold medal but Dong once again exploded in the last 50 meters and overtook everyone for gold! He overtook the American pretty much at the last turnaround (50 meters left) and left him for dead but Dutch guy held his lead to the final <10 meters! Our little bugger's only 18!!

I fucking blew out my left arm fist pumping in celebration at the office! Shit that's gonna suck when I try my next shoulder press at the gym but what a race!!!

Speaking of celebrations, once again, white coach in the Chinese team going nuts like his kids just won. He's got to be getting an awfully hefty bonus per gold medal for him to be that happy.
 
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azn_cyniq

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Oh my GOD, Dong Zhihao just won the men's 200m Breaststroke! I can't bloody believe it. I thought the American was gonna win since he dominated the semis yesterday. Dong was lagging very badly, like 6th place or some crap, then exploded in the last 50m and took second. I didn't think he could win today because usually if you've left things up in the air that far, then you've given your all while the American seemed routine and unstressed. Just now at the finals, a Dutch guy led the first pretty much the whole way and my hope was for him to stave off America from that gold medal but Dong once again exploded like wild the the last 50 meters and overtook everyone for gold! He overtook the Amercan pretty much at the last turnaround (50 meters left) but Dutch guy held his lead to the final <10 meters! Our little bugger's only 18!!

I fucking blew out my left arm fist pumping in celebration at the office! Shit that's gonna suck when I try my next shoulder press at the gym but what a race!!!
Looks like China is going to dominate the men's breaststroke events at the Paris Olympics :)

As far as I know, the main medal contenders are Pan Zhanle (100m freestyle), Qin Haiyang (50m, 100m, 200m breaststroke), Wang Shun (200m IM), and Zhang Yufei. Are there any others?
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Back-to-back CRAZINESSS!!!! Men's 200m freestyle relay, USA opened up a dominant lead, we were trailing by as much as 6-8 meters at one point. Then we started closing at the 3rd swimmer; Pan Zhanle, closed up from lagging >4m to lagging some 2m, still pretty difficult for the last guy. Then Zhang Zhanshuo came in for the anchor and immediately cut it down to 0.5 meters and there was big hope. Even in the last 50 meter turn, he was neck and neck with the American until about the last 20 meters when he pulled ahead by 0.2-0.3m. He came in for the gold medal touch and I didn't even realize that the Koreans were in the race too and overtook the Americans as well! Zhang out-touched his Korean rival by 0.1 seconds and the Americans, once leading everyone by heads and shoulders, settled for bronze!!

I am not stupid enough to blow out my arm again despite the total nailbiter of a race and I have gotten absolutely NO work done at the office. How could I?

And now, the medal tables has China at 22 gold medals and the US at 7. They are 15 behind with 14 events left. Game over, it's all entertainment now.

Edit: Analyzing the results, this is what happened. At first, it looked like Zhang Zhanshuo was the superhero... but he's not. His split time wasn't very fast; he was 3rd out of the 4 Chinese swimmers in speed. But he overtook the US team the hardest because Americans totally blew their wad on the first guys, putting their best swimmers first and their worst last. Pan Zhanle was China's strongest swimmer, faster than every teammate by at least 1.5 seconds, and the second fastest split time in the competition. He was 0.14 seconds slower, however, than the Korean 200m freestyle champ, who anchored his team and almost surged past everyone in the last few meters. Another 5-10m against him and we might have been toast.
 
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Randomuser

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I really hope they can have this level of performance at the Olympics. That's when it truly counts and every gold medal taken away there that would otherwise go to US etc is glorious to watch.

US won't be able to say anything coz it's their sport.
 

grulle

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any shot at China equaling the most total golds record at one world championship? it was set by the US at 23 a few decades back.
 
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