Speculation and facts on future Chinese vessels
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Only 8 052D? Lol... 6 055s and 6 LPD and 3 LHA on top of that, mind.
I say take it with a massive grain of salt.
But indications all round are saying we can expect some kind of cruiser sometime this decade, a large LHD/A, and of course carrier and continued 052D construction if economy keeps as it is.
I understood that. But how do you make sense of the numbers for CV 002 in the second chart?
Quickie
Colonel
Apparently, 2 of the "class CV 002" will be built. CV 003 is said to be nuclear powered. How reliable is this info?
A total of 0.25 was built by 2012, plus a total of 1.625 will be built from 2013-2020, so by 2020 a total of 0.25 + 1.625 = 1.875 CV002 will be constructed, and thus there will be 1 CV002 in active service (last column), and 87.5% of a second one built.
SinoSoldier
Colonel
My biggest questions would be: (1) why do we see no Type 096? Has China really forgotten about the concept of MAD or does it simply regard nuclear war to be such low probability that it need not be worried about? (2) I would imagine that China wants to expand her influence through large surface combatants, so why are there no planned induction of oilers? Even if they operated within the second island chain, fuel for so many ships is still vital.
It is interesting that 094 production will supposedly be continued. Maybe they've made upgrades on the class to make it more survivable, or have developed or are planning to develop a missile that can cover the entire continental US from chinese waters. Either way the supposed production run of 095s will at least be twice that of 093, which is also very interesting and will obviously have repurcussions for the blue water capabilities of any PLAN CVBG or SAG.
And I don't think oilers are included in the list, only major combatant vessels. I think all of us expect a new class of AOR to be developed and built in due time.
I see such a construction timeline as indicative of the PLAN's blue water intentions and more importantly, to operate a number of respectable potent CVBGs. Continued destroyer production, a new class of frigate, SSN all point in that direction. Perhaps most of all is the development of a cruiser class.
Actually I don't think China perceived US as the ONLY threat she will be facing, and other threats around her can well be taken care of by 094 and doesn't need the more expensive 096 or 095. True, she can use her conventional submarines against some of the lesser threats but the 094 had more endurance in water.
Mysterre
Banned Idiot
You're mixing up different types of submarines. The Type 094 is a ballistic missile submarine (SSBN) used to deter other countries with nuclear missiles. It's role has nothing to do with the Type 095, which is supposedly the successor to the (relatively) noisy nuclear attack submarine (SSN) Type 093. The Type 096 is another allegedly newer SSBN being designed as a successor to the Type 094. This type may possibly be built as a stretched version of the Type 095 like all the other SSBN's:
Type 092 SSBN (Xia): stretched Type 091 SSN (Han)
Type 094 SSBN (Jin): stretched Type 093 SSN (Shang)
Type 096 SSBN (Tang?): stretched Type 095 SSN (Qin?)
Why does it seems they are building submarines so fast, I don't mean quantity, I mean the new subs hareldy get any experience then few years later it gets replaced by newer ones.