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First F-22 and 35 are stealth, he see his opponent no stealth before he sees, a great difference.
One simple example F-22 against Typhoon tranche 3 which have a radar identical for its performance, F-22 look Typhoon to about 200 km and Typhoon only 35 km ! front RCS, frontal combat.

F-35 radar, APG-81 is a little less powerful, because he have " only " 1200 modules, APG-77 of F-22 1500.

Even now or technology made ​​great progress, big/heavy fighters with a big nose that can accommodate a larger radar with a larger number of modules are advantaged.

For comparisons, yes, F-15 a little best as Su-27 but also US pilots are best and more trained, flies about 250 h/year, standard NATO minimum 180, Russian pilots about 100 now ? there a few years when Russia was in poor economic situation in general her fighter pilots flies 30 h !
 
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For first F-15C and Su-27 radar i have :

F-15 APG-63/70 : range max against a fighter about 110 km, numbers of target track and engaged ? cary max 8 AAM
Su-27S/P* Phazotron N001 Mech : against a fighter about 100 km, track 10 targets engaged 1, carry max 10 AAM

S for Frontal Aviation, P for PVO, identical.
 
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PKG class patrol vessel which was sheduled to be delivered next year laying deep in the water by the No 5 wharf in Hanjin Heavy Industries shipyard in Changwon due to strong wind, high waves and... doors left open for the night.​
 
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The S-3 Viking MPA is going to get reactivated for the South Korea 16 units ate due to supplement the P-3C

Also around 100 are due to be reactivated for USN many good conditions units are stored at Davis air force base in Arizona

Source Warship magazine 2013 December issue page 8
 
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asif iqbal said:
The S-3 Viking MPA is going to get reactivated for the South Korea 16 units ate due to supplement the P-3C

Also more are due to be reactivated for USN.
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Janes Defense Weekly said:
Gareth Jennings, Seoul - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
28 October 2013


Despite having been retired from service in 2009, the S-3 Viking could be reborn under Lockheed Martin plans to offer the aircraft to the Korean and US navies. Source: Jamie Hunter

Lockheed Martin is to resurrect the retired S-3 Viking aircraft in order to fulfil requirements for both the Republic Of Korea Navy (RoKN) and the US Navy (USN), a company official told IHS Jane's on 29 October.

Speaking at the Seoul International Aerospace and Defence Exhibition (ADEX) in South Korea, Steve Pigott, Director Business Development International Air Mobility Programs, said that the company is looking to refurbish a number of mothballed Vikings, which it will offer to the RoKN as a maritime patrol (MPA) and anti-submarine warfare (ASW) platform, and to the USN for carrier on-board delivery (COD) and air-to-air refuelling (AAR).

"There are about 50 to 100 S-3s in the boneyard [at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Arizona] that have a lot of life left in them," he said. "As the [original equipment manufacturer], we would do a nose-to-tail overhaul of them [and] fit them with the required systems."

With regard to the South Korean requirement, the RoKN is looking for approximately 20 aircraft to augment the 16 Lockheed Martin P-3C/CK Orions it is currently upgrading.

"We responded to the Korean government's request for information [RFI] a couple of months ago. Based on this RFI, we believe that the S-3 is the way that Korea wants to go," said Pigott.

Pigott said that the aircraft would be given both an ASW and MPA capability, with sonobuoys and acoustic detection systems. Pigott was unable to say at this time if the aircraft will be equipped with torpedos, and/or a magnetic anomaly detector. While Pigott said that the mission system has yet to be decided, he confirmed that it would developed and installed by Lockheed Martin.

The RoKN is looking to make a decision on its MPA requirement in 2016, with the selected aircraft set to enter service in 2017.

Having retired the type from service in 2009, the USN is being offered the S-3 to fulfill its COD and AAR requirements. "[Lockheed Martin is] actively promoting the S-3 to the US Navy, but we've not received a response yet," Pigott said, adding; "We think the navy might be very interested in the Viking for COD to support the current C-2 [Greyhound], and for aerial refuelling [to support or replace the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet in the role]."
Pigott noted that, while the refurbishment of the S-3 for the RoKN's ASW and MPA requirements would be relatively straightforward, taking "months rather than years", it would be a more complicated affair converting the airframes into COD platforms.

Piggot added that, while Lockheed Martin is focusing its S-3 efforts on RoKN and the USN, it is ready to offer the platforms to other customers should they be interested. There are currently four S-3 aircraft being flown as test platforms by NASA's Glenn Research Center in Ohio.
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So, Anit-submarine Warfare and Maritime Patrol for Korea...which is what they were designed to do.

Air to air refueling and COF for the US Navy. Quite frankly, I believe the COD role would require a pretty large redesign, and I think the OPsrey is probably going to win that award...or a overhaul of the existing C-2s to the E-2D baseline for the fusealage and the engines. But, in the Air to Air refueling role, she would be a natural and free up F/A-18 Superhprnets from that, and she could easily also provide patrol services for the CSG.

Interesting to see if this happens because there are upwards of a hundred air frames with plenty of service life left on them.
 
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