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MwRYum

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So they can still shoot? Sorry... I am a pencil pusher when I am in the Army, I only have limited experience with the M16S1 and SAR80, also I have not come across such a thing, only know the safety switch on the rifle.

Funny thing was, I was assigned to Provost-Guard Dog unit detachment to TAB, supposedly my time spent with the M16S1 (just M16A1 but locally produced anyway, in fact what I was issued back then was M16 Vietnam variant, oh yeah with Colt mustang logo on the lower receiver) is very limited but I still managed to fare better on marksmanship and rifle handling than those base security, whom have to train more on stuff like those than we did.

Anyway, what M16S1 has is what you'd find on the M16A1 anyway.

Singapore will move their Paya Lebar Air Base to Changi.

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Actually... This might be the woe of a small country. We lack space of everything.

The main issue I am troubled with was... Changi airport was where our civilian airport was and where civilian aircrafts lands and takes off. If the military airbase was stationed there... wouldn't security be a problem? and what about exercises? When the air force is having a big exercise or training, are they going to stop civilian aircraft from coming in... this cannot be the case as a huge part of our yearly revenue came from all these air traffic.

I remember in one of my visit to my home town in China Shantou, on the way back, I am stuck in the airport the better part of the night according to one of the staff in that airport, he mentioned that the PLAAF is staging a massive exercise, and all civilian aircrafts that is slotted to land or take off on that day was either grounded or diverge to nearby airports (or hongkong airport). Hope this won't happen in Singapore where civilian air traffic to Changi airport is so much heavier than my small hometown airport in China.

That reminds me: back in my days the PAB postings was considered the best because of the accommodations and other creature comforts, Changi and TAB were the dreaded because the facilities were old...

And IIRC, in China those civilian-military airfields (many airports in China are dual-prupose) has the problem not just shared runway but also their ATC isn't that good.

As to how much the military operations interfere Changi's civilian operations, it'd be largely up to the placement of the 4th airstrip (if to operate those big planes originally stationed in PAB, it has to be long and wide) and how they segregate civilian-military air traffic; my money is that the Changi's air traffic will get hampered by some degree during major exercises, but given day-to-day patrols are handled by F-16s from TAB things shouldn't be that bad.
 
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rhino123

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Funny thing was, I was assigned to Provost-Guard Dog unit detachment to TAB, supposedly my time spent with the M16S1 (just M16A1 but locally produced anyway, in fact what I was issued back then was M16 Vietnam variant, oh yeah with Colt mustang logo on the lower receiver) is very limited but I still managed to fare better on marksmanship and rifle handling than those base security, whom have to train more on stuff like those than we did.

Anyway, what M16S1 has is what you'd find on the M16A1 anyway.

Well... during my days, I did have some marksmanship training. I fare pretty well with my M16S1... in the day, but almost failed at night (serious case of night blindness) and somehow I find the SAR80 being abit more accurate than my M16S1, not sure way... the biggest problem is that, instead of kicking back, the SAR80 actually recoil slightly to the right, and so shot between shots, I have to readjust my targeting like more so as compared to M16S1, which can be quite irritating, especially when one of my eyes are covered by an eye-patch (self bought and used due to some medical condition).

Anyway, the thing with my M16S1 and the SAR80, all I can remember was a safety switch at the side of the rifle. Maybe I didn't actually pay too much attention to details. I know there is a dust cover, but didn't pay any heed to it... my M16S1 is pretty alright, but my SAR80 seriously had quality issue. I remember a time, the cartridge cannot be ejected, and the other round was already halfway into the chamber, and the whole thing not only jammed, when they remove the stuck cartridge, and the round, I can see that the side of the live round are torn and I am lucky it didn't blow. In the end, the technician found that one of the small pin in the bolt had snapped, which cause this thing to happen, which is a strange thing.

It is no wonder that SAR80 was not issued widely to our combat unit :)

Anyway, that is just a rant from an old NSF.

Back to topic.
 

ManilaBoy45

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Additional Weapons of BRP Ramon Alcaraz Now Being Installed

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10 Oktober 2013

MANILA, (PNA) -- The Philippine Navy (PN) on Wednesday announced that the additional weaponry and electronic systems are now being installed at BRP Ramon Alcaraz (PF-16) which is now on its drydocking period."BRP Ramon Alcaraz is presently being installed with additional weapons, armaments and electronic systems," Navy spokesperson Lt. Cmdr. Gregory Fabic said.But for reasons of "operational security", he declined to identify these weapons and electronic systems."For operational security reasons, I cannot divulge (the exact type) of weapons and electronic systems which are now being installed," he added.Earlier reports said that the BRP Ramon Alcaraz will be fitted with two Mark 38 Model 2 25mm "Bushmasters" autocannon and four to six light machine guns will be fitted during the dry-docking period.
 

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Additional Weapons of BRP Ramon Alcaraz Now Being Installed

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10 Oktober 2013

MANILA, (PNA) -- The Philippine Navy (PN) on Wednesday announced that the additional weaponry and electronic systems are now being installed at BRP Ramon Alcaraz (PF-16) which is now on its drydocking period. BRP Ramon Alcaraz is receiving additional weapons, armaments and electronic systems.
It was my understanding that ultimately all vessels of the Gregorio del Pilar class, which now inludes PF-15, Gregorio del Pilar, and PF-16, Ramon Alcaraz...and may well include more former US Coast Guard Hamilton class cutters, would ultimately be fitted out with a fairly decent weapons suite.

They were delivered with just the 76mm cannon and the helicopter hanger, but I understand that ultimately they intend to outfit them with the following:

1 x 76mm Mk 75 OTO Melara DP main gun
1 x 25mm Mk 38 Mod 2 Chain Gun
2 x 20mm Mk.16 autocannons
6 x 12.7mm Mk 2 Browning machine guns
4 x RGM-84 Harpoon Missiles (later, sperate purcahse)
2 x SRBOC Mk 36 6-barrelled Chaff disppensers
1 x AN/SLQ-25 Nixi counter torpedo system (later, sperate purcahse)


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BRP Gregorio del Pilar, PF-15

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BRP Ramon Alcaraz, PF-16

Remember, these cutters were originally built in the mid-1960s, so they are approaching 50 years in age. The US Coast Guard used them extensively, all over the world, but they also maintained them very well. If they are structurally sound and well maintaned, they can go on serving for several more decades.
 
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ManilaBoy45

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It was my understanding that ultimately all vessels of the Gregorio del Pilar class, which now inludes PF-15, Gregorio del Pilar, and PF-16, Ramon Alcaraz...and may well include more former US Coast Guard Hamilton class cutters, would ultimately be fitted out with a fairly decent weapons suite.

They were delivered with just the 76mm cannon and the helicopter hanger, but I understand that ultimately they intend to outfit them with the following:

1 x 76mm Mk 75 OTO Melara DP main gun
1 x 25mm Mk 38 Mod 2 Chain Gun
2 x 20mm Mk.16 autocannons
6 x 12.7mm Mk 2 Browning machine guns
4 x RGM-84 Harpoon Missiles (later, sperate purcahse)
2 x SRBOC Mk 36 6-barrelled Chaff disppensers
1 x AN/SLQ-25 Nixi counter torpedo system (later, sperate purcahse)


1024px-PF-15_and_SARV-002_CARAT_2013.jpg

BRP Gregorio del Pilar, PF-15

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BRP Ramon Alcaraz, PF-15

Remember, these cutters were originally built in the mid-1960s, so they are approaching 50 years in age. The US Coast Guard used them extensively, all over the world, but they also maintained them very well. If they are structurally sound and well maintaned, they can go on serving for several more decades.

The main guns for both vessels are already the 76mm Oto Melara plus there will be 2 MK38 MOD2 gun systems for each vessel and also the 2 SRBOC MK36 Chaff dispensers launchers for each ship were never removed and was included when they were turnover ...
 
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ManilaBoy45

Junior Member
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I was pretty sure that there would onLY be one 25mm Mk 38 Mod 2 chain gun, but also two 20mm Mk.16 auto cannons FOR EACH VESSEL.

We will find out when she comes out of drydock at the end of the month ...

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Aerial Photo of BRP Ramon Alcaraz Prior to Her Drydock Period ...
 
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rhino123

Pencil Pusher
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It was my understanding that ultimately all vessels of the Gregorio del Pilar class, which now inludes PF-15, Gregorio del Pilar, and PF-16, Ramon Alcaraz...and may well include more former US Coast Guard Hamilton class cutters, would ultimately be fitted out with a fairly decent weapons suite.

They were delivered with just the 76mm cannon and the helicopter hanger, but I understand that ultimately they intend to outfit them with the following:

1 x 76mm Mk 75 OTO Melara DP main gun
1 x 25mm Mk 38 Mod 2 Chain Gun
2 x 20mm Mk.16 autocannons
6 x 12.7mm Mk 2 Browning machine guns
4 x RGM-84 Harpoon Missiles (later, sperate purcahse)
2 x SRBOC Mk 36 6-barrelled Chaff disppensers
1 x AN/SLQ-25 Nixi counter torpedo system (later, sperate purcahse)


Remember, these cutters were originally built in the mid-1960s, so they are approaching 50 years in age. The US Coast Guard used them extensively, all over the world, but they also maintained them very well. If they are structurally sound and well maintaned, they can go on serving for several more decades.

The weapon suite make those ships pretty potent... even against newer corvettes from the Chinese navy like the 056. And recent news did show that the Philippines are serious about building up their navy... with inclusion of lots of US warships.

Lets see how things go.

Actually I am also wondering why wouldn't the Philippines get newer ships from Russia. Those warships from Russia are not exactly expensive and a great bang for the bucks.
 

rhino123

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Singapore to buy AN/TPQ-53 Crossfire Acquisition Radar Systems.

The deal is expected to be around US$179million.

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rhino123

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Singapore being one of the smaller nation in the world and the smallest in ASEAN was actually the fifth biggest arms importer in the world.

This could also reflect the almost zero capability to manufacture her own weapons for the following reasons,

1) Political
2) Economical
3) Lacking of resources
4) Lacking of sophisticated R&D sectors in weapons developement
5) development mindset

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