South East Asia Military News, Reports, Data, etc.

kwaigonegin

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One can always pray hard and hope. Just saying.

Treaties aside the historical ties between the Phillipines and the US are pretty strong. Unless it's an open and shut case where the Philipines screwed up big time or is undeniably the aggressor, I am 99.9% sure the US military will come to the aid of the Philipines if a very serious situation emerges.
 

rhino123

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I read in the media recently that Japan is willing to cooperate with the Philippines regarding serious threats on maritime issues in the South China Sea, although no details were announced. The Philippines has brought this serious problem of sea territorial claims to the UN for arbitration, much to the ire of China. One has to understand the "fighting culture" of the Filipinos - when come to the push, I believe they will stand and fight for their national integrity. Not many know the Filipino history of fights during their nation's Spanish and American Colonial periods; and in WW II when their guerrilla forces fought the Japanese even after the initial withdrawal of Gen MacArthur's US Forces. Yes! the Philippines Armed Forces are presently not well armed compared to others in the region. I think they look to their friends and allies to assist them when needed. In this respect, I am sure that if a serious clash happens, the Philippines and a few others would observe US reactions to defense treaty obligations.

Well... This is the same as all nation and nationality. In Singapore during WWII, even after the Japanese occupation, many people still raise up against them... same was to be spoken of China and Korea.

All nationalities had fighting culture within them, not just the Filipino... nor was the Filipino 'fighting culture' more deeply rooted in them. When there are unjust, there are people who will fight.

However... 'fighting culture' can only go so far... you need the proper equipment and training and discipline to actually have bigger effect.
 

Jeff Head

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Japan Daily Press said:
The plan for Japan to provide coast guard patrol ships to the Philippines will be accelerated, according to Japanese officials. Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida and Philippine Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario are expected to sign the final plan at their meeting in Tokyo on Wednesday.

Manila formally requested 10 coast guard patrol ship from Japan last December. A fact-finding mission, which includes experts from the Japan International Cooperation Agency, was sent by the Japanese government this May to assess the situation. They will also work with officials in coming up with the equipment preferences and also devising with plans to operate the patrol ships once they are turned over. The delivery for the vessels are expected to begin by next fiscal year from April 2014. Each ship is expected to cost more than 1 billion yen (approx. 9.74 million dollars) and will be part of the official development assistance of Japan to the Philippines.
 

ManilaBoy45

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The 10 Patrol Vessels are Not Donations but Will be a Loan Purchase ...


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By Sara Susanne D. Fabunan | Posted on Feb. 11, 2013 at 11:43pm

The Philippines has asked Japan for a $110 million loan to purchase 10 patrol boats that will boost its surveillance capability in the coastal areas inside its territory, including the West Philippine Sea, the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) said on Monday.DFA spokesman Raul Hernandez said the plan to purchase the boats was not intended to bolster its position in the dispute with China over the West Philippine Sea but to upgrade the capabilities of the Philippine Coast Guard (PCG).
 

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By Manuel Mogato

MANILA (Reuters) - Washington and Manila have expanded talks on military cooperation to include possible U.S. funding to build facilities and the storage of U.S. humanitarian relief supplies, the Philippine envoy to the United States said on Tuesday.

The wider scope of the talks for joint use of civilian and military facilities signals rapidly warming security ties between the allies as the Philippines looks to the U.S. administration to help counter a newly assertive China.

The Philippines has ruled out granting permanent basing rights to Washington, Ambassador Jose Cuisia said, but it would give U.S. warplanes and warships wider access to Philippine bases on a temporary and rotational basis, helping the Asian nation improve its minimum defence capability.

The increasing rotational presence of U.S. forces in the country is covered by the 1998 Visiting Forces Agreement, but a new arrangement would be needed if Washington built facilities to support its temporary deployment to the Philippines.

"We need to expand (the 1998 pact) further because we may have to build some additional facilities," Cuisia told reporters in the Philippine capital.

The two countries have been in talks since 2011 for "joint use" of civilian and military facilities.

The informal talks had reached ministerial level, Cuisia said, with both sides hoping for a deal before President Benigno Aquino steps down from office in June 2016.

"There has to be some agreement to support it. Especially if they spend money, there will have to be some agreement."

Cuisia said a new pact might involve a U.S. request for the storage of equipment and supplies in the Philippines to prepare for humanitarian aid and disaster relief efforts.

That would reduce delays in bringing in equipment from elsewhere, such as bases in Guam and Honolulu, he said.

"Then whenever it's needed it's so much easier to use that equipment because it's already here."

But funding construction activities could be a problem for the United States following huge cuts in its defence spending, Cuisia said.

Last month, the Philippine military told Reuters about plans to revive air and naval bases at Subic Bay, a former U.S. Navy facility that American forces could use to counter China's presence in the disputed South China Sea.

Military and diplomatic sources familiar with security talks between the allies told Reuters Washington had identified fewer than a dozen civilian and military facilities to which it wanted greater access, most of them facing the South China Sea.

In some civilian locations, the military would need to build facilities for security and storage of supplies, spares and equipment. These facilities could later be offered for joint use with the United States.

Last December, the two nations also started informal talks on the pre-positioning of materials and gear, including that to be withdrawn from Iraq and Afghanistan as some U.S. forces return home, an air force colonel familiar with the talks said.

"The U.S. military would like to keep tonnes of humanitarian equipment, like tents, generators and shelter materials here," he told Reuters, adding that the latest two-way exercises on disaster response focused on this type of operation.

(Reporting by Manuel Mogato; Editing by Clarence Fernandez)
 

FORBIN

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Really highly interesting and the country geographically complement the device with Japan / Okinawa and Australia...
 

advill

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Although the Philippines wants close military cooperation with the US and perhaps in the near future with Japan, Australia and other countries, the country is trying to show its Independence by not providing "permanent" bases (unless something drastic happens). However, the rotational basis could be good enough at this point in time without having problems with internal and external politics.



Well, there you go. You learn something new every day.

I thought that the
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meant a permanent force structure presence there. But apparently it is on a "rotational" basis, which probably does mean that forces are pretty much always there...but with some pretty strong caveats.
 
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