South East Asia Military News, Reports, Data, etc.
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Red___Sword
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This is a very good thread, we have South East Asia's news circular now.
We all have good wishes advill, but I remember somewhere inline with the saying:"When there is blood on the street, there is booming of business" - Arms dealer didn't exactly the kind of people wishes the ease of tensions and the understanding between states - It is the job for the politicians who sign the checks, not the service provider who promise performance.
This is a very good thread, we have South East Asia's news circular now.
We all have good wishes advill, but I remember somewhere inline with the saying:"When there is blood on the street, there is booming of business" - Arms dealer didn't exactly the kind of people wishes the ease of tensions and the understanding between states - It is the job for the politicians who sign the checks, not the service provider who promise performance.
lcloo
Captain
Re: ASEAN military news
I agree on your points, but so far Malaysia and USA are on good terms, as alwasys been in the past. And most important Malaysia is unlikely to go into any war with any US-friendly countries in the neighborhood.
However, there was a complaint after an initial training firing exercise by Malaysian airforce after taking delivery of the aircrafts, they found the F-18D could not properly track marine target due to down-graded software. The problem was later solved by manufacturer. This was about 20 years ago.
I agree on your points, but so far Malaysia and USA are on good terms, as alwasys been in the past. And most important Malaysia is unlikely to go into any war with any US-friendly countries in the neighborhood.
However, there was a complaint after an initial training firing exercise by Malaysian airforce after taking delivery of the aircrafts, they found the F-18D could not properly track marine target due to down-graded software. The problem was later solved by manufacturer. This was about 20 years ago.
MwRYum
Major
Re: ASEAN military news
Indeed, thanks to a change of leadership that weighted more on realist than the older days.
Indeed, thanks to a change of leadership that weighted more on realist than the older days.
MwRYum
Major
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This is merely to take the advantage of the vast training ground US provides, for Singapore has next to no room for defense in depth.
And this is what everyone knows but nobody would say it out loud officially: adopting the doctrine not unlike the Israeli (back in highschool I once did posed such question during a Q&A session, and I clearly remember that I got the PR officer rather stumped right there), Singapore planned its conventional warfare scenario against Indonesia and Malaysia. While Indonesia is a simpler foe to deal with - inferior navy and airforce that already stretched to protect its vast holdings, Malaysia is a major issue because Singapore is well within artillery striking reach across the Strait of Johor, thus when the crap hits the fan Singapore will hit first, create the necessary depth in defense at Johor, hold out at least a week till US effectively intervene.
Ultimately, Singapore's defense is to make the invaders pay heavily for their risk taking, while not getting their money and blood worth - what makes Singapore valuable are the high-tech industries facilities and the major oil refineries (one of the very few in the world with capability to process Venezuela crude oil), and those most will probably be damaged/lost/render invalid during fighting.
That hold true with the kind of politicians ran those countries over the years, lesser so in these days but still, there's ongoing arms race in the region and Singapore so far managed to stay ahead with the best toys and well-trained regulars in the region; but the future would lean more towards counter-terrorism, as both Malaysia and Indonesia have active AQ cells.
This is merely to take the advantage of the vast training ground US provides, for Singapore has next to no room for defense in depth.
And this is what everyone knows but nobody would say it out loud officially: adopting the doctrine not unlike the Israeli (back in highschool I once did posed such question during a Q&A session, and I clearly remember that I got the PR officer rather stumped right there), Singapore planned its conventional warfare scenario against Indonesia and Malaysia. While Indonesia is a simpler foe to deal with - inferior navy and airforce that already stretched to protect its vast holdings, Malaysia is a major issue because Singapore is well within artillery striking reach across the Strait of Johor, thus when the crap hits the fan Singapore will hit first, create the necessary depth in defense at Johor, hold out at least a week till US effectively intervene.
Ultimately, Singapore's defense is to make the invaders pay heavily for their risk taking, while not getting their money and blood worth - what makes Singapore valuable are the high-tech industries facilities and the major oil refineries (one of the very few in the world with capability to process Venezuela crude oil), and those most will probably be damaged/lost/render invalid during fighting.
That hold true with the kind of politicians ran those countries over the years, lesser so in these days but still, there's ongoing arms race in the region and Singapore so far managed to stay ahead with the best toys and well-trained regulars in the region; but the future would lean more towards counter-terrorism, as both Malaysia and Indonesia have active AQ cells.
Re: ASEAN military news
The research by "paint gun" on the Philippines & the Singapore Air Forces appears reliable. Although MwRYum had made a few factual comments, regretfully most of his other comments regarding Singapore's warfare scenarios etc. with its neighbours are outdated (as quoted from his high school days). Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore are members of ASEAN with good political cooperation among themselves and with the 7 other ASEAN countries. Agreed, there bound to be occassional hicups among neighbouring countries same as with China & India, US & Mexico etc. etc. It should be noted that there is close cooperation among the Police Forces of Indonesia, Malaysia & Singapore in anti-terrorist operations; and ships of their 3 Navies are deployed on on anti-piracy patrols in the Singapore Straits and Straits of Malacca. Both Malaysia and Singapore are also members of the Five Power Defence Arrangement (FPDA established in 1971) together with Australia, NZ and UK. Their FPDA military forces have held regular exercises. Singapore has good relations with all friendly countries including China, US the EU, and like all sensible & pragmatic countries, it has a fairly strong Military Force, majority of whom are National Servicemen. BTW, if a country has surplus cash it can purchase or develop the latest weaponry like China, Japan and S Korea are doing; and if some country like the US wants to "give" or sell on special terms to the Philippines, or like China to the Pakistan Military/Navy, it's unrealistic to expect the receipient countries not to accept such military assistance. As for the Arms Race in Asia, the debate will continue as who is responsible - this would depend on one's analysis and political alignment & FYI I am an independent commentator & the comments I wrote are mine & not those of the SAF. Merry Christmas and A Happy & Peaceful New Year to all.
The research by "paint gun" on the Philippines & the Singapore Air Forces appears reliable. Although MwRYum had made a few factual comments, regretfully most of his other comments regarding Singapore's warfare scenarios etc. with its neighbours are outdated (as quoted from his high school days). Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore are members of ASEAN with good political cooperation among themselves and with the 7 other ASEAN countries. Agreed, there bound to be occassional hicups among neighbouring countries same as with China & India, US & Mexico etc. etc. It should be noted that there is close cooperation among the Police Forces of Indonesia, Malaysia & Singapore in anti-terrorist operations; and ships of their 3 Navies are deployed on on anti-piracy patrols in the Singapore Straits and Straits of Malacca. Both Malaysia and Singapore are also members of the Five Power Defence Arrangement (FPDA established in 1971) together with Australia, NZ and UK. Their FPDA military forces have held regular exercises. Singapore has good relations with all friendly countries including China, US the EU, and like all sensible & pragmatic countries, it has a fairly strong Military Force, majority of whom are National Servicemen. BTW, if a country has surplus cash it can purchase or develop the latest weaponry like China, Japan and S Korea are doing; and if some country like the US wants to "give" or sell on special terms to the Philippines, or like China to the Pakistan Military/Navy, it's unrealistic to expect the receipient countries not to accept such military assistance. As for the Arms Race in Asia, the debate will continue as who is responsible - this would depend on one's analysis and political alignment & FYI I am an independent commentator & the comments I wrote are mine & not those of the SAF. Merry Christmas and A Happy & Peaceful New Year to all.
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