South China Sea Strategies for other nations (Not China)

SamuraiBlue

Captain
Yeah but not enough and a lot more costly to produce them as for steel product.

"Master of creating blue prints a architecture"? Apparently you are not the field to understand that China leads the world in both design build and building. Many architecture and engineering companies around the world out source their rendering and cad drawings to China.

The PRC are ahead in the infrastructure of building and machineries for high altitude and mountainous places.

It doesn't matter since it creates jobs and PRC's steel has limited usage due to it's quality.
As for construction, PRC's strong point is in low cost in labor compounded by low level in safety control which can only be managed within PRC domestic market. The construction industry had moved on to what is known as BIM (Building Information Modeling) and requires in depth knowledge design as well as fabrication, and on-site construction project management. It is to optimize construction from the top down in a single working model. This started in the US and was popularized through the standardization of 3D-CAD which the European and US IT companies dominates.
 
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WORLD NEWS | Tue Jan 31, 2017 | 6:57am EST
Philippines' Duterte asks China to patrol piracy-plagued waters

Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte on Tuesday said he had asked China to help in the fight against Islamic State-linked militants by sending ships to patrol southern waters plagued by raids on commercial vessels.

Speaking to newly promoted army generals, Duterte said he had sought China's help in dangerous waters in the south to check the activities of Abu Sayyaf, a Muslim rebel group sustained by piracy and kidnap-for-ransom activities.

A surge in piracy off parts of the Philippines is forcing ship-owners to divert vessels through other waters, pushing up costs and shipping times.

Duterte said piracy in the Sulu Sea between eastern Malaysia and the southern Philippines would escalate to levels seen in Somalia, and raise insurance costs for firms and increase prices of consumer goods and services.

"We would be glad if they have their presence there ... just to patrol," Duterte said, adding that China could send coastguard vessels, not necessarily "gray" warships.

"In the Malacca Strait and here in Sulu Sea remains to be a big problem," he said. The Malacca Strait, between Malaysia's west coast and the Indonesian island of Sumatra, has over the years also been plagued by pirates.

He did not say if China had responded.

The Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia had an agreement to patrol and tackle the Abu Sayyaf in the Sulu and Celebes Sea after they kidnapped the crew of Indonesian and Malaysian tug boats and South Korean and Vietnamese merchant ships.

Philippine Defence Secretary Delfin Lorenzana last week said cooperation might be expanded to include Brunei and Singapore. The United States has also expressed concern about the security problem and held exercises with Malaysia and the Philippines last year.

Lorenzana said on Tuesday the military had intensified operations on land with the aim of defeating Abu Sayyaf within six months.

(Reporting by Manuel Mogato; Editing by Martin Petty, Robert Birsel)
 

mr.bean

Junior Member
Will China step up?

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Philippine Senator Peter Cayetano went to China a few weeks ago with a wish list
and returned without a firm commitment by China.
I wonder if this was one of the items on the list?

i hope Xi Dada say yes on this one. Du30 is a friend and he's calling out to China for help. China Coast Guard have been building up their fleet for awhile and now it's time to go out and test their mettle.
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
It doesn't look like Tillerson's State Depratment is singing from the same sheet of music as Mattis' Defense Department. Also, I take exception to Mattis' last sentence on China shredding trust of its neighbors, because there's no rational disagreement against nations putting their own interests above others, and in the real world, lesser powers have no delusions of how great powers act.

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U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis on Saturday played down any need for major U.S. military moves in the South China Sea to contend with China's assertive behavior, even as he sharply criticized Beijing for "shredding the trust of nations in the region."

"At this time, we do not see any need for dramatic military moves at all," Mattis told a news conference in Tokyo, stressing that the focus should be on diplomacy.

In his Senate confirmation hearing, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said China should not be allowed access to islands it has built in the contested South China Sea. The White House also vowed to defend "international territories" in the strategic waterway.

But how the United States would achieve that has been unclear, including whether it would have a military dimension.

Analysts have said Tillerson's remarks, like those from the White House, suggested the possibility of U.S. military action, or even a naval blockade.

Such action would risk an armed confrontation with China, an increasingly formidable nuclear-armed military power. It is also the world's second-largest economy and the prime target of Trump accusations of stealing American jobs.

Mattis suggested that major military action was not being currently considered.

"What we have to do is exhaust all efforts, diplomatic efforts, to try to resolve this properly, maintaining open lines of communication," Mattis said, in his most complete remarks on the issue to date.

"And certainly our military stance should be one that reinforces our diplomats in this regard. But there is no need right now at this time for military maneuvers or something like that, that would solve something that’s best solved by the diplomats."

China claims most of the South China Sea, while Taiwan, Malaysia, Vietnam, the Philippines and Brunei claim parts of the waters that command strategic sea lanes and have rich fishing grounds along with oil and gas deposits.

Mattis criticized China's actions.

"China has shredded the trust of nations in the region, apparently trying to have a veto authority over the diplomatic and security and economic conditions of neighboring states," he said.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
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Those are rebars NOT steel piping for drilling.
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Nice try of finding propaganda news to fit with your argument. One must be careful, a lot of these writings are fabricated stories by Japanese ambassadors paying British writer to bash China remember? Therefore I can't trust them as much as the ground water on the continuing leaking Fukushima nuclear power plant.
 
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Janiz

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a lot of these writings are fabricated stories by Japanese ambassadors paying British writer to bash China remember?
That was a shock how little they pay for good press compared to China for which it's easy to pay millions of USD for it's pages in Western press? Like the term 'wumao' was invented yesterday....
 
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