South China Sea Strategies for other nations (Not China)

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The Independence Gate was built on top of the China-Korea gate which had stood for hundreds of years.

And that the builders were a pro-Japan faction that took control of Korea, after Japan assassinated the Queen, in the aftermath of the China-Japan war.

So we can see Korea just went from being a Chinese vassal state to a Japanese vassal state.

True independence for Korea doesn't factor into the plans that Imperial Japan had

A more pertinent example would be when the Korean King was deposed by his own aristocracy and government ministers for the crime of being anti-Chinese, which was a grave undertaking given the Confucian moral codes that exist in China, Korea and Japan.

But leaving aside the issue of the Independence Gate, let's look at what happened to Korea when Imperial Japan had control.

If Japan was so benevolent, then why do the Koreans have such dark views of Japanese actions in those times?

Note that China was fine with Korea replacing Classical Chinese with a new Korean national language, yet the Japan set about forcefully erasing the Chinese and Korea languages with Japanese.

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The rhetoric of independence and liberation is pretty standard, as it is great justification for whatever a country wants to do for geopolitical reasons.

It's a regular pattern if we look at WW2, when the Japanese were welcomed as liberators in much of SE Asia, because the colonial peoples thought they were going to be independent. Then these peoples come to the realisation that they have swapped one set of overbearing masters for one which is much worse.

Even people in the UK and France aren't proud of their colonial days, so we have the Prime Minster and President apologising for those times. But I severely doubt we'll see Japanese Prime Minster Abe do the same.

AndrewS said:

Note that China was fine with Korea replacing Classical Chinese with a new Korean national language, yet the Japan set about forcefully erasing the Chinese and Korea languages with Japanese.

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And that's a lie. I thought that one was so old and stupid that no one uses it anymore.

AndrewS said:

If Japan was so benevolent, then why do the Koreans have such dark views of Japanese actions in those times?

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They didn't have that dark view of those times. Recent years brought that into young people minds thanks to dramas, movies etc. Just look how many young Koreans applied for Japanese Army. It wasn't a draft but volunteers who wanted to serve as it was a mean of social status elevation, the same view as in Japan and rest of the pre WWII world. So you had Korean general in Japanese Army and Korean Kamkaze pilots. Much bigger numbers than Korean Liberation Army (about a 1000 men by the end of the WWII).

AndrewS said:

But leaving aside the issue of the Independence Gate, let's look at what happened to Korea when Imperial Japan had control.

If Japan was so benevolent, then why do the Koreans have such dark views of Japanese actions in those times?

Note that China was fine with Korea replacing Classical Chinese with a new Korean national language, yet the Japan set about forcefully erasing the Chinese and Korea languages with Japanese.

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If you are more knowledgeable about the situation you would probably turn down your claim since you show you have no knowledge about the situation.

Basically after Japan annexed the Korean peninsula the average longevity had expanded twice with the introduction of modern medicine in which Japan outlawed Shamanism from practicing medicine, introducing mandatory elementary education resulting to upheaval of literacy rate by four fold, providing modern agricultural training , etc.

Basically Japan ushered Korea into the modern age.

You can also educate yourself why there is such animosity against the Japanese by studying how Syngman Rhee obtained his power. Basically it's written within the present SK constitution.

SamuraiBlue said:

If you are more knowledgeable about the situation you would probably turn down your claim since you show you have no knowledge about the situation.

Basically after Japan annexed the Korean peninsula the average longevity had expanded twice with the introduction of modern medicine in which Japan outlawed Shamanism from practicing medicine, introducing mandatory elementary education resulting to upheaval of literacy rate by four fold, providing modern agricultural training , etc.

Basically Japan ushered Korea into the modern age.

You can also educate yourself why there is such animosity against the Japanese by studying how Syngman Rhee obtained his power. Basically it's written within the present SK constitution.

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Janiz said:

And that's a lie. I thought that one was so old and stupid that no one uses it anymore.They didn't have that dark view of those times. Recent years brought that into young people minds thanks to dramas, movies etc. Just look how many young Koreans applied for Japanese Army. It wasn't a draft but volunteers who wanted to serve as it was a mean of social status elevation, the same view as in Japan and rest of the pre WWII world. So you had Korean general in Japanese Army and Korean Kamkaze pilots. Much bigger numbers than Korean Liberation Army (about a 1000 men by the end of the WWII).

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That's how a rapist would remember how he and the victim both had a good time together.

Those above posts are really disturbing, at the same time deeply insulting to the victims whose suffered a great deal beyond words at the hands of militarists.

That's not the spirit of people who are deeply remorseful of their past misdeeds and sincerely asked for atonement and apologized for many times.

That's the revisionist far right nationalists praising and cheering Imperial Japan's militarism and militarist expansions at the expense of other countries in the region.

It makes a great deal difference in how you remember history.

I really wished Tojo and his imperial militarist ilk and long line of people like him in history had more than one neck and none should have been spared.

Yvrch said:

Those above posts are really disturbing, at the same time deeply insulting to the victims whose suffered a great deal beyond words at the hands of militarists.

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What do you know about the issue that you're judging anyone? How many historical books on that matter have you read in your entire life? I know both Korean and Japanese, read a few books coming from both countries as well. And someone in the Internet will call me names when his knowledge of the international ties between South Korea and Japan matter is close to zero...

Relax, Koreans think about the same about Chinese as they do about Japanese.

Janiz said:

What do you know about the issue that you're judging anyone? How many historical books on that matter have you read in your entire life? I know both Korean and Japanese, read a few books coming from both countries as well. And someone in the Internet will call me names when his knowledge of the international ties between South Korea and Japan matter is close to zero...

Relax, Koreans think about the same about Chinese as they do about Japanese.

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North or South Koreans? There is a difference.

Janiz said:

What do you know about the issue that you're judging anyone? How many historical books on that matter have you read in your entire life? I know both Korean and Japanese, read a few books coming from both countries as well. And someone in the Internet will call me names when his knowledge of the international ties between South Korea and Japan matter is close to zero...

Relax, Koreans think about the same about Chinese as they do about Japanese.

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It just confirms you are a troll doing this just for LOL's.

If nothing else, it shows how a few books, both in Japanese and Korean no less, make a troll and an expert in international ties between South Korea and Japan.

Impressive. Truly impressive.

Keep on trolling.

SamuraiBlue said:

If you are more knowledgeable about the situation you would probably turn down your claim since you show you have no knowledge about the situation.

Basically after Japan annexed the Korean peninsula the average longevity had expanded twice with the introduction of modern medicine in which Japan outlawed Shamanism from practicing medicine, introducing mandatory elementary education resulting to upheaval of literacy rate by four fold, providing modern agricultural training , etc.

Basically Japan ushered Korea into the modern age.

You can also educate yourself why there is such animosity against the Japanese by studying how Syngman Rhee obtained his power. Basically it's written within the present SK constitution.

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lol, the same can be said after USA destroyed your country, USA brought all the good stuffs to japan like cars, planes, software, TV which you all NOT shamelessly copied!

USA brought down the Empire of little japan and turn it into a modern country AKA democracy with millions of troops, dozens of carriers, and bases to protect japan from communist CHINA!!!

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