Sino-Vietnam war

Gaginang

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Yang Yang said:
as a chinese , i hate viet nam , because it fought against china after winning us under china's help . never , ever will i foget viet nam's action !

As a chinese i hate those communist chinese that helped cambodian communist to kill fellow chinese and the natives of cambodian.

Before 1975 cambodian only grew rice once a year, after From 1975 to 1979. cambodian grew rice 3 times a year , dat is an increase of 300% of rice production. but 90% of rice grew in cambodia were send to china, let the people to starve to death while the chinese fatten their belly.

dat is a fact. why because the cambodian communist region needed guns, and those guns were from china. even the king of cambodia at dat time was puppet for the chinese.

To repay their debt to the chinese, the cambodian paid with rice, the whole country productions were rice and only rice.

cambodian was invaded by vietnamese troops in 1979, and those vietname's troops were mostly made up chinese ethnic living in vietnamese, looking for revenge for their relatives dat died in cambodia

all i can say is dat if the vietnamese didn't invade cambodia, the chinese would just make the cambodian communist grow rice for them untill there is no one else to grow rice to repay them.

and thank god the viet did, or else i would not have been alive.

and for matter of the chinese to invade vietname is souly because cambodian was one of the source of rice from south east asia. and for china to invade vietname to give thema hidding, it's properganda i reckon, because my grand dat and his brother is chinese but also fight the for Vietcong against Uncle sam.

you want to know more about chinese involvement in the cambodia genercide, you should look up cambodian genercide website and see the victim testomony.

not just chinese , but also north korean were there too.
 

Gollevainen

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Now this "i hate this and i hate that" type of posting ends! Also if i hear one oword of ANYONE harvesting RICE once more, the thread will be closed and the person saying so gets warning, understood? Also this is Sino-Vietnam war thread, not thread about Campodian history, so i strongly suggest that all of you get back to the topic:eek:ff :eek:ff
 

Gaginang

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Gollevainen said:
Now this "i hate this and i hate that" type of posting ends! Also if i hear one oword of ANYONE harvesting RICE once more, the thread will be closed and the person saying so gets warning, understood? Also this is Sino-Vietnam war thread, not thread about Campodian history, so i strongly suggest that all of you get back to the topic:eek:ff :eek:ff

hey man, why are you so angry?? sino-vietnam is relevant to cambodia, because vietname didn't invade cambodia, there would be no sino-vietnam war.
 
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Obcession

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*************************What did I just hours before said about rice?***************
Now, about the Sino Vietnam War.

Why do you guys think the PLA withdrew after capturing Liang Shan? With a few thousand more casualties, the PLA could've captured Hanoi, and that would've dealt a significantly larger phsychological impact than just capturing Liang Shan. The Vietnamese claimed that they won the war, and the war didn't change their attitudes toward China one bit. If Hanoi was captured, atleast they'd be thinking twice about border incursions after that (which frequently happened).
 
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Gollevainen

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I'm not angry, just passing on orders, orders to cut the offtopic discussion, becose from expereince, these sentences that opens with "i hate..." usualy ends up to flaming batlles which are agianst the rules of this forum.

Campodia might be relevant to Sino-vietnam war, but as political discussion is forbidden in this forum, there is not much to venture in the Campodian genoside which could be related to the actual war and it's tactical/strategical and techinical side which you are supposed to discuss.
 

Defense

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Transportation & telecommunication intelligence

This type of intelligence can be crucial to correctly assessing a nation's ability to wage war, as it concerns a nation's highways, railroads, inland waterways, and civil airways as well as its telephone, telegraph, and civil broadcast capabilities.

When China sent troops across the border into Vietnam in 1979, many observers assumed that China would win the conflict.

This estimate was based on the huge size of the Chinese army and on its excellent performance against United Nations forces in the Korean War.

After China failed to score a decisive victory; the same commentators examined China's transportation and telecommunication networks and found that, while they were very highly developed in the Northeast, they were quite primitive in the South.

It was concluded that the advanced northeastern systems and the primitive southern systems were prime factors in China's success in Korea and in its lackluster performance in Vietnam.
 

mindreader

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Gaginang said:
As a chinese i hate those communist chinese that helped cambodian communist to kill fellow chinese and the natives of cambodian.

Before 1975 cambodian only grew rice once a year, after From 1975 to 1979. cambodian grew rice 3 times a year , dat is an increase of 300% of rice production. but 90% of rice grew in cambodia were send to china, let the people to starve to death while the chinese fatten their belly.

dat is a fact. why because the cambodian communist region needed guns, and those guns were from china. even the king of cambodia at dat time was puppet for the chinese.

To repay their debt to the chinese, the cambodian paid with rice, the whole country productions were rice and only rice.

cambodian was invaded by vietnamese troops in 1979, and those vietname's troops were mostly made up chinese ethnic living in vietnamese, looking for revenge for their relatives dat died in cambodia

all i can say is dat if the vietnamese didn't invade cambodia, the chinese would just make the cambodian communist grow rice for them untill there is no one else to grow rice to repay them.

and thank god the viet did, or else i would not have been alive.

and for matter of the chinese to invade vietname is souly because cambodian was one of the source of rice from south east asia. and for china to invade vietname to give thema hidding, it's properganda i reckon, because my grand dat and his brother is chinese but also fight the for Vietcong against Uncle sam.

you want to know more about chinese involvement in the cambodia genercide, you should look up cambodian genercide website and see the victim testomony.

not just chinese , but also north korean were there too.

You know what your problem is? You have no sense of objectivity and logical thinking. Which is why your post reeks with foul odour.

Things in general were crap in Cambodia during that time, yet those so called "Chinese" like you like to use the figure "50% of Chinese in Cambodia were killed" as if ethnic cleansing was happening.

In reality, there were far more Khmers killed (in absolute quantity) than Chinese. The only reason so high a percentage of Chinese were killed was because there were so relatively few of them. The Cambodia autucracy did not specifically target ethnic Chinese as Suharto did in Indonesia. Everybody got screwed.

The reason the CCP supported the Cambodian government was quite simple. It was either them or the Vietnamese, who's interest were closely tied with the Soviets, both have ambitions (realistic or otherwise) of invading China. It's as simple as that.

Yet you feel the need to suggest something as moronic as "China needing Cambodian rice." Seriously, do you have any idea how much rice Cambodia was exporting or how much China was producing? China's rice reserve is higher than Cambodia's annual export output.

Not only that, you were silly enough to suggest that the vast majority of invading VA were ethnic Chinese. Only someone who can't tell the difference between the Chinese (even those genetically closely related to the Viets) from the Vietnamese would suggest that.

Do yourself a favour. Next time you suggest something as ridiculous as this, at least bother to do some research. That way you'll at least be only a little embarrassed instead of thoroughly humiliated.
 
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hotrungnghia

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do weapons get equip Vietnamese people The Fleetted with? and offers is french need give... to china in autarchical litigious concernment on sea ?
 

antisino

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rumours are spreaded, by both sides. the viet namese would spread it to show how cruel the chinese are. and the chinese would spread it to make ourselves feel good about it, since they didn't do good on chinese borders. but normally, chinese soldiers who are under the education of communist party for the last 14 years of their lives, they won't just go destroy things with cold blood. they won't just shoot anyone standing around, not even mentioning a pig or dog. but they might got orders to destroy things, like machinaries in the factory, or mecandises in the markets to destroy the economy of viet nam.
speaking fairly, PLA is an army being taught of chairman mao's thoughs, a people's army, an army found by the people, for the people, eveyrone was taught to respect the civilians, not harm both chinese people and the enemy civilians. things like raping was strictly forbiddened, anyone found raping local civilians will be shot. a story told an officer who happened to have an affair with a local viet namese woman, who happened to be with him free willingly got courtmashalled. he was killed by a land mine later in the war.


I think Chinese are the same with polpot mil, they killed all living thing on the land.
If you have time please visit dead field to see what polpot, a student of Mao have done for cambodia.
 

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, by Mark A. Coyle:


ABSTRACT

THE SINO-VIETNAMESE CRISIS, 1975-1979: AN HISTORICAL CASE STUDY, by Captain Mark A. Coyle, USA

How did China and Viet Nam each react to the crisis in their relations between 1975 and 1979? Why did the Chinese ultimately wage war against the Vietnamese? This work is an historical case study that addresses these central questions.

International crisis management case studies done by Allen Whiting, Ole Hotsti, Alexander George, and Richard Smoke form a base for developing the analysis. Journalistic reports and government documents constitute the majority of the primary source materials used.

Both Hanoi and Beijing felt that the other posed a serious threat to its national security. Each side sought to comnunicate its concern to the other through aseries of signals. The study focuses mainly on the pattern of Chinese signals, as Beijing responded to what it considered increasingly unacceptable behavior by Hanoi. 'The means of delivery, the rhetorical intensity, the level of issuing authority, and the relative timing of the signals all showed indications of escalating as the crisis became more severe.

'The paper proposes an index of indicators by which to judge the progress of crisis development and crisis control. One of the chief difficulties in the Sino-Vietnamese dispute was a conflict of perceptions. Each side was using a different perspective in viewing its own and the other side's position. By using indicators to understand crisis development more fully, decision-makers may be able to exercise crisis management more effectively.
 
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