Should China respect sanctions on Iran?

bladerunner said:

I never said anything about invading Iran. I said we as (in Westerners) should bomb the nuclear installations. If Iran was to retaliate through the use of her proxies, attacking Israel, or any other activities, that undermine the status quo in the Middle East, then we should start to bomb her infrastructure, starting with her oil producing ability, switching to civilian infrastructure if need be.

What would be interesting is watching China's (which I regard as the fly in the ointment) reaction when all her investments in Iran are blown to pieces, but then she can blame nobody but herself for blocking the sanctions.

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solarz said:

ROFL...

So if Iran doesn't do what you want, you're advocating a military attack?

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Its not only me , most people in the West would not be adverse to a military strike on the nuclear installations. As I said earlier, Chinas the fly in the ointment, when it comes to non military means.

I actually wonder if China would be that upset if Iraq's nuclear installations were taken out.
Neither would Russia at a guess. Note how shes holding back on delivering the Sam300's, to make it easier for the West?

Let me guess, you were a fan of Bush?

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I'm a neo con to the last. Bush had the right idea, but wasnt very good in carrying them out.

Maybe you want to go search for WMDs in Iran now?

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I not advocating an invasion

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bladerunner said:

solarz said:

ROFL...

Its not only me , most people in the West would not be adverse to a military strike on the nuclear installations. As I said earlier, Chinas the fly in the ointment, when it comes to non military means.

I actually wonder if China would be that upset if Iraq's nuclear installations were taken out.
Neither would Russia at a guess. Note how shes holding back on delivering the Sam300's, to make it easier for the West?

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I'm a Westerner who thinks it would be madness to attack Iran. Better to punish and contain them. They may test a bomb, but we cannot do what we've done with every other nuclear nation: scold and sanction them while they build the bomb but then accept it once it's completed. That's one of the main reasons nations press ahead to get the bomb. They think whatever consequences there are will go away after a few years if they succeed. There must be severe economic and political consequences for Iran if it presses ahead with the bomb. China and Russia would do well to revoke it's observer status at the SCO as punishment for continued defiance.

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bladerunner said:

I never said anything about invading Iran. I said we as (in Westerners) should bomb the nuclear installations. If Iran was to retaliate through the use of her proxies, attacking Israel, or any other activities, that undermine the status quo in the Middle East, then we should start to bomb her infrastructure, starting with her oil producing ability, switching to civilian infrastructure if need be.

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bladerunner said:

What would be interesting, is watching China's (to whom I regard as the fly in the ointment through her blocking actions) reaction when all her $billions investments in Iran are blown to pieces, but then she can blame nobody but herself for blocking the sanctions.

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bladerunner said:

Its not only me , most people in the West would not be adverse to a military strike on the nuclear installations. As I said earlier, Chinas the fly in the ointment, when it comes to non military means.

I actually wonder if China would be that upset if Iraq's nuclear installations were taken out.
Neither would Russia at a guess. Note how shes holding back on delivering the Sam300's, to make it easier for the West?





I'm a neo con to the last. Bush had the right idea, but wasnt very good in carrying them out.




I not advocating an invasion

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siegecrossbow said:

I can't believe that people are actually advocating an attack on Iran! What if the supposed "targets" are not nuclear installations?!? Have we not learned the lesson of Iraq?

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Finn McCool said:

bladerunner said:

There must be severe economic and political consequences for Iran if it presses ahead with the bomb. China and Russia would do well to revoke it's observer status at the SCO as punishment for continued defiance.

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My apologies if it comes across as insulting, but its the only way I can think of putting it.

How do you say "Whoopty do" in Iranian.

Seriously theyve learnt a trick or to from the NK's and giving us the run around

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Engineer said:

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What would be interesting, is the total collapse of world economy afterwards, as oil price goes into space and China respond to threats to its own interests.

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I cant see a huge spike in oil prices. Oil has sat around the $80 mark for a couple yrs now, through lack of demand and this is likely to continue for a lot longer. Certainly enough time to for other countries to crank up production. In short the West doesnt need Iranian Oil.

China will do what China wants. IMO she doesn't care a less with the possibility of a nuclear armed Iran, however nor will she stand in the way of a surgical strike against Iran by the West. As pla101prc quiet aptly suggested in a much earlier post, "just business as usual, let the West do the dirty work." (or something like that)

BTY NZ doesnt import a lot of oil from Iran, although it will take time and a policy change, we do have proven oil reserves that can possibly take us close to self sustaining.

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