I do wish people would read my posts more carefully. I didn't mean that WS-10A was developed based on AL-31F, but rather WS-10A would not have completed this fast without studying AL-31F. This is a known fact.MIGleader said:
Should China get su-35bm
- Thread starter tphuang
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maddogy4645
New Member
Buying a few to study their tech is always a good idea, but Su37/35s are USELESS against PLAF's real killers, the F22s. China has enough expertise and resources to attempt to upgrade her Flanker and J10 fleets now, however, getting another major procurement of Russian fighters is redundant and wasteful.
right, I'm sure sukhoi will just let China by a squadron and be okay with that. If China buys, it will be at least for 1 regiment as in the case of su-30mkk2. I'd like to see China get at least 2 regiments of 30. As for F-22, which plane can go against F-22? Honestly, su-35bm will give us superiority against the mkis and super hornets and that's good enough as far as I'm concerned.maddogy4645 said:
Chairman Hu
Banned Idiot
Both the Su-35BM and the Raptor has TVC built in them, the battle is really up to the pilot, if they both can manuver out each other's missiles, then this plane is WORTH China's money, this thing can carry 12 and with TVC, the Raptor is with 8 and TVC, the Raptors will be sen to destroy the BM, since it can nail the Super Hornet, if the MKI can manuver a R-77 and another R-73 as it pulls itz famous escape tactic. so can the Su-35BM, maybe China can test this plane and use to to stall F-22s
If it can stall F-22s, then It can do the same with the MKI, this can give China the levege that she needs. Plane to purchase and study is one thing, but if it can do something like this (MAYBE), then itz a double for the PLAAF
If it can stall F-22s, then It can do the same with the MKI, this can give China the levege that she needs. Plane to purchase and study is one thing, but if it can do something like this (MAYBE), then itz a double for the PLAAF
MIGleader
Banned Idiot
Chairman Hu said:
if an su-35 bm and f-22 actually met in a dogfight, much of the f-22s advantage is gone. tech such as tvc, helmet sight were all pioneered on russian planes years ago. the su-35bm is undeniably more manuverable than an f-22.
i do not se the u.s usiing f-22s on china in the near future, souse the bms to fight mki or f-15/f-18. j-xx can be used on the f-22 if they actually fight.
so weve decided the su-35bm is a good buy. so how many should china buy, and at what price?
i say buy a first batch of 36, then 40, then 24, ...like the mkk and su-27s deals. 30 million per plane wouldnt be that bad.
yeah, that's why I agree bm is needed. It may not be able to take on F-22/35 or EF-2000, but it can kick F-18s and probably be at least equal to F-15K. I say get 50 at least, 100 max. 2 to 3 regiments sounds pretty good.MIGleader said:
FreeAsia2000
Junior Member
Hmm will stealth technology make BVR irrelevant in the future ? If so the
F-22 advantages are useless in a dogfight.
I think Malaysia and the other asian states have learnt the lesson of Iraq
Buy Missiles and Sniper gear !
F-22 advantages are useless in a dogfight.
I think Malaysia and the other asian states have learnt the lesson of Iraq
Buy Missiles and Sniper gear !
MIGleader
Banned Idiot
tphuang said:
i dont see a problem with taking on a eurofighter. i dont know hwy peoplt keep believing russian planes are less capable than europes. a bm is certainly more manuverable than a ef2000, and the new radars not bad either. plus it hold 4 more weapons!!! (damn, germarks going to be all over me!)
nothing except the mig 1.44 has chance against the f-22. so dont try.