Shenyang next gen combat aircraft thread

[ACuriousPLAFan]

No, I think it's just a run on sentence. I think he meant that the loyal wingman will also be for both the AF and the navy. The second part is harder to decipher though. He seems to be implying that the CAC and SAC planes as "tea cups" while the "tea pot", a 3rd plane and presumably an even more impressive one playing a different role, is yet to be revealed.

This is the more accurate description of his (slightly cryptic) post.

The thing is - We need to view both this post and an earlier post (which talked about how the J-XDS and J-36 are complimentary to one another instead of rivals) by him concurrently.



Hence, to sum it up:
1. J-XDS from Shenyang AC is the world's 1st 6th-gen fighter to take flight (Chengdu AC's J-36 is second);
2. J-XDS will have both land and naval (carrier) applications;
3. There is one (or more) loyal wingman UCAV (which presumably is yet to be revealed) which will also have both land and naval (carrier) applications, and that the UCAV highlights stealth and maneuverability;
4. Both the J-XDS and J-36 are the "teacups" in the "tea set";
5. There is one more (presumably 6th-gen manned) aircraft which will play the role of the "teapot" in the "tea set", which is yet to be revealed.



Now, speaking of that "teapot" in the "tea set", @洋务先驱张之洞 on Weibo did mention the following sometime earlier today:

Is there nobody who would like to take a guess on how many Mach these things (referring to the J-XDS and J-36) and something that will come afterwards can fly?

So there's that.

I'm thinking of some kind of a Chinese counterpart to the SR-71 or SR-72, given his mention of "how many Mach". Otherwise, I could only think of the H-20.

 

[Overbom]

This is the more accurate description of his (slightly cryptic) post.

We need to view both this post and an earlier post (which talked about how the J-XDS and J-36 are complimentary to one another instead of rivals) by his concurrently.

To sum it up:
1. J-XDS from Shenyang AC is the world's 1st 6th-gen fighter to take flight (Chengdu AC's J-36 is second);
2. J-XDS will have both land and naval (carrier) applications;
3. There is a loyal wingman UCAV (which presumably is yet to be revealed) which will also have both land and naval (carrier) applications, and the UCAV highlights stealth and maneuverability;
4. Both the J-XDS and J-36 are the "teacups" in the "tea set";
5. There is one more (presumably 6th-gen manned) aircraft which will play the role of the "teapot" in the "tea set", which is yet to be revealed.

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Now, speaking of that "teapot" in the "tea set", @洋务先驱张之洞 on Weibo did suggested the following sometime earlier today:

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So there's that.

I'm thinking of probably some kind of Chinese counterpart to the SR-71 or SR-72, given his mention of "Mach"? Otherwise, I could only think of the H-20.

Is there nobody who would like to take a guess on how many Mach these things (referring to the J-XDS and J-36)

Mach 3+

 

[bsdnf]

Welcome to the forum.

Who is CAD? And why not mention the CAC airframe? Does it imply that the J-36 is not a true "fighter" in the traditional sense of the word?

Tea set = air combat system, JH-XC/J-XS is just two of the tea cups (sub nodes), the teapot (main node) has not yet appeared

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

This is the more accurate description of his (slightly cryptic) post.

We need to view both this post and an earlier post (which talked about how the J-XDS and J-36 are complimentary to one another instead of rivals) by his concurrently.

To sum it up:
1. J-XDS from Shenyang AC is the world's 1st 6th-gen fighter to take flight (Chengdu AC's J-36 is second);
2. J-XDS will have both land and naval (carrier) applications;
3. There is one (or more) loyal wingman UCAV (which presumably is yet to be revealed) which will also have both land and naval (carrier) applications, and that the UCAV highlights stealth and maneuverability;
4. Both the J-XDS and J-36 are the "teacups" in the "tea set";
5. There is one more (presumably 6th-gen manned) aircraft which will play the role of the "teapot" in the "tea set", which is yet to be revealed.

View attachment 141841

Now, speaking of that "teapot" in the "tea set", @洋务先驱张之洞 on Weibo did mention the following sometime earlier today:

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So there's that.

I'm thinking of (probably) some kind of a Chinese counterpart to the SR-71 or SR-72, given his mention of "how many Mach". Otherwise, I could only think of the H-20.

Also, he did not mention that the "teapot" in the "tea set" will come from Shenyang AC. That "teapot" could come from any AC.

So there's that.

 

[Nautilus]

Would this "teapot" then be conceptually a commander in a CCA/commander setup, or just a heavier version of what we've seen already (JH-XX?) The J-36/J-XDC already looks like it might be able to fulfill a master node function at least in terms of power generation and range, no?

 

[siegecrossbow]

I thought it's the narrow things laterally under the cockpit. They're just much narrower than the norm for intakes.
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But yeah with the side by side F-22 comparison you can see that it looks weird, the intakes are very prominent for the F-22 but not really so for the J-XS. I don't know what the implications of that are.

Might actually be belly intakes.

 

[bsdnf]

Would this "teapot" then be conceptually a commander in a CCA/commander setup, or just a heavier version of what we've seen already (JH-XX?) The J-36/J-XDC already looks like it might be able to fulfill a master node function at least in terms of power generation and range, no?

I have a bold guess: the teapot is a large high-speed early warning bomber equipped with large conformal phased array, a mix of J-36&B-2. PLAAF never said it only relied on distributed radar early warning

 

[Deino]

Is this legit?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1872600564942737636

 

[asif iqbal]

Sorry guys I am late to the party (again)

did this fly at the same time as the J-36?

is this manned or unmanned ?

Goodness me what a finish to 2024 !

 

[siegecrossbow]

Is this legit?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1872600564942737636

You know it is when they add that shitty BGM they always use in CCTV military channel short videos.