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I got used to eating them since don't know when. I too didn't really like the fatty meat customarily used for it but now it seems to me the fattier the better.
Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator
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I got used to eating them since don't know when. I too didn't really like the fatty meat customarily used for it but now it seems to me the fattier the better.
ludasmatyi
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OK, enough talk about zongzi, I think it's time for us to get back on topic.
Someone with good credibility on CD made following assumptions about SAC's new aircraft based on all those photos we see:
1. Prototype could be powered by two WP-13 or even RD-33, but at the end it will switch to some thing much more powerful(95 kN class engine).
2. The design of the air intake will increase the RCS a little.
3. According to the design of its wing and tail, it will be used mostly in mid and low altitude.
4. According to the size of it's nose, the radar should have around 1000 T/R units. So for an object has RCS=1, detection range should be 100km; for something bigger(like Su-27), will up to 200km accordingly.
5. Range will be limited(based on inside information, it carries 7t fuel).
Someone with good credibility on CD made following assumptions about SAC's new aircraft based on all those photos we see:
1. Prototype could be powered by two WP-13 or even RD-33, but at the end it will switch to some thing much more powerful(95 kN class engine).
2. The design of the air intake will increase the RCS a little.
3. According to the design of its wing and tail, it will be used mostly in mid and low altitude.
4. According to the size of it's nose, the radar should have around 1000 T/R units. So for an object has RCS=1, detection range should be 100km; for something bigger(like Su-27), will up to 200km accordingly.
5. Range will be limited(based on inside information, it carries 7t fuel).
SinoSoldier
Colonel
Recent, military insiders huzhigeng, pupu, and liziyu released the following information:
1. SAC is developing a twin engine heavy fifth generation fighter with WS-15 engines that will complement the J-20. This is NOT the J-21.
2. The J-21 will be for the carriers and export.
3. CAC is developing a single engine variant of the J-20 as well
4. the J-21 will focus on stealth and put less emphasis on maneuverability and weapons load
1. SAC is developing a twin engine heavy fifth generation fighter with WS-15 engines that will complement the J-20. This is NOT the J-21.
2. The J-21 will be for the carriers and export.
3. CAC is developing a single engine variant of the J-20 as well
4. the J-21 will focus on stealth and put less emphasis on maneuverability and weapons load
Just to be clear, are you saying that this supposed 5th gen fighter with WS-15 engines is not the J-21,
or,
That this plane everyone's been posting images of so far is not the J-21?
Well at least a few of those certainly do not exist, or are in very early stages of feasibility studies because despite everything china does not have the money to fund that many stealth fighter programs nor do they need that many.
So the SAC heavy fifth gen fighter, single engine J-20 at this moment look like they are less likely to be real, J-21 is looking increasingly more convincing.
SinoSoldier
Colonel
Maybe not privately, but if the PLAAF does want SAC to play a role in its equipment procurements, then it won't be surprising if they fund SAC. After all, if they have broken through VLO design, then making a larger variant of the J-21 shouldn't be a problem. Same with the J-2X.
Schumacher
Senior Member
Well, there's a leading edge tech that China could have used to have transported the thing in secret. It's called a big piece of cloth to cover it so people wouldn't even know it's an aircraft being carried on the truck.
I do get what you mean. I'm sure they considered it and publicity at least played a small part in deciding how they did this.
MwRYum
Major
What I'm saying is that people like you read too much into it, when it's just a simple transport op with an odd-sized cargo that needs extra care when you value in Chinese road conditions; and any odd-sized cargo definitely garner attention...tell me, even in other countries how often you see an airframe transport on a flatbed? Or armored vehicles ride on a carrier? Even a construction equipment such as an excavator riding on a flatbed gets some head turned too, what'd you expect when there's something this odd been witnessed on the road?
Naturally, when that picture was posted, along with clues such as its shape and location it was photographed, those who know their stuff immediately connected the dots and from there, it went viral.
Still, for SAC or "Shenkhoi" (now folks in China pondering a new nickname, "Shenheed Martin"), their 1st and foremost concern is to make sure the test rig arrive to the facility safe and sound - not risking a million-yuan rig and potential compromise to the project, just for some publicity stunt.
eldarlmari
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Huh？What kind of a worm? Zhong Zi > seed > 种子... Oh year, sperms can be thought of to be some sort of seeds... But worms? Clue me in, someone?
种子 sounds like 'to impregnate' or 'to deposit sperm'. should be '粽子'
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Well, there's a leading edge tech that China could have used to have transported the thing in secret. It's called a big piece of cloth to cover it so people wouldn't even know it's an aircraft being carried on the truck.
I do get what you mean. I'm sure they considered it and publicity at least played a small part in deciding how they did this.
im pretty sure this whole event is more or less sort of a publicity stunt. even small kids who saw it would ask their mother 'mummy, why is that plane covered up like that?'. too obvious it's a plane-and 1 that needs to be covered up like that.
The climax is near, i guess.
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