Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator

wow... I'm surprised the thought that this could simply be an existing aircraft simply flew right past you all...

Pareidolia, you are seeing what you are suggested to see...

Anyways, heres a picture that explains all of the controversy surrounding this without going into conspiracies, etc.

Maybe but you're just going guessing by size. There are differences from a L-15. Your logic works against you as well.

AssassinsMace said:

Maybe but you're just going guessing by size. There are differences from a L-15. Your logic works against you as well.

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The shape is nearly identical of not fully identical. What differences can you spot?

cataphract said:

The shape is nearly identical of not fully identical. What differences can you spot?

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The nose on an L-15 is longer and the cockpit is bigger. And there's a sting on this one that the L-15 doesn't have.

AssassinsMace said:

The nose on an L-15 is longer and the cockpit is bigger. And there's a sting on this one that the L-15 doesn't have.

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The nose isn't longer to me, and if you look at the picture from above, you'd notice the "Sting" isn't there.

cataphract said:

The nose isn't longer to me, and if you look at the picture from above, you'd notice the "Sting" isn't there.

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The nose on an L-15 tends to be longer and narrow. I see a sting in the rear. You don't? If you're talking about the above street view... it might or might not be there but it's not the best quality pic and every other pic that's closer has it.

cataphract said:

The shape is nearly identical of not fully identical. What differences can you spot?

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IMO these two are significantly different, the body, shape, proportion, lex, nose, cockpit, I simply don't understand why someone call them identical.

If you look at this top view of the L-15, the engine section is longer from the wings and it has its ailerons attached unlike whatever this is. And if you look at the size of the security guards on the street, the L-15 seems overall smaller.

We've considered the possbility of it being L-15, and subsequently dismissed it a few pages back.

The chining, the upper fuselage blend and the sting (which on the clearest and most contrast side view you can see is definitely there) all point that it isn't L-15. (In the above view picture you can also see the shadow of the plane being projected on the ground -- you can see the shadow what appears to be the forward lip of the DSI, similar to JF-17, F-35, J-20, etc which this F-60/J-21 plane is supposed to feature as well).

Not to mention why would they assign such high profile security for simply an L-15 or L-15 derivative.

L-15 has longer and sharper nose and its canopy is for double seaters while the "thing" obviously has a shorter and bigger nose and its canopy, though I can't 100% sure, is single seat. Anyway, L-15 is developed by Hongdu but the "thing" is on the way between Beijing and Shenyang. You may say the "thing" is a mock-up, a model or anything but not an L-15.