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Colonel
This weight thing is more and more like a discussion on alien visitation... I say “I saw aliens!” You say “no you didn’t!”
This is what I call an untestable hypothesis. No one can provide any solid evidence. This is also why this sort of discussion is always dragged on and on. No one can convince anyone else because of lack of solid evidence.
In cases like this, my suggestion is to present your argument, while at the same time, respect the other side. Without actual solid evidence, your argument is as good as others. There is absolutely no need to argue. There is nothing to argue (a possibility of something is not evidence). No evidence to support you whatsoever. Everyone presents your case and moves on.
We can actually dedicate a special thread (maybe even a special category, in addition to strategic defense, army, navy, AF, etc) and name it “technical predictions for new Chinese weapons systems”.
Under this special category, we can have a thread like “data prediction for the J-20 weight”. Everyone presents their position and their support. No need to argue and no need to attack others. Simply state your case and move on. We will come back to the same thread when some members feel that they have gotten solid enough evidence to convince most people. When things are settled, we close the thread. No need to go back and forth.
Of course, the actual format can be different. I guess my goal is to maximize our strength as a forum specializing professional opinion on Chinese weapons. Let’s keep things as professional as we can.
Another good thing is that we have a special place to collect all the technical data. If anyone wants to look up things, they can simply to go this category and look up different weapon systems and get all the numbers.
These threads would have no photos, only numbers, charts and tables. Show your numbers and your support, and that’s it. No argument and no attacks. It’s like a special place for data. When we get access to actual data and someone got it right, they got the bragging rights. And we can easily keep track of everyone’s predictions.
If you visit those professional academic or research forums, you will see that everyone simply states their own opinions and presents evidence. If no one can settle the argument, you will see things like “we will wait for more evidence”. And everyone moves on.
It is difficult to keep personal feelings in check when you are passionately arguing about things. I know that I have lost control many times. However, if we can create a professional environment, things will be easier for all of us. Being professional is what separates men from boys.
This is what I call an untestable hypothesis. No one can provide any solid evidence. This is also why this sort of discussion is always dragged on and on. No one can convince anyone else because of lack of solid evidence.
In cases like this, my suggestion is to present your argument, while at the same time, respect the other side. Without actual solid evidence, your argument is as good as others. There is absolutely no need to argue. There is nothing to argue (a possibility of something is not evidence). No evidence to support you whatsoever. Everyone presents your case and moves on.
We can actually dedicate a special thread (maybe even a special category, in addition to strategic defense, army, navy, AF, etc) and name it “technical predictions for new Chinese weapons systems”.
Under this special category, we can have a thread like “data prediction for the J-20 weight”. Everyone presents their position and their support. No need to argue and no need to attack others. Simply state your case and move on. We will come back to the same thread when some members feel that they have gotten solid enough evidence to convince most people. When things are settled, we close the thread. No need to go back and forth.
Of course, the actual format can be different. I guess my goal is to maximize our strength as a forum specializing professional opinion on Chinese weapons. Let’s keep things as professional as we can.
Another good thing is that we have a special place to collect all the technical data. If anyone wants to look up things, they can simply to go this category and look up different weapon systems and get all the numbers.
These threads would have no photos, only numbers, charts and tables. Show your numbers and your support, and that’s it. No argument and no attacks. It’s like a special place for data. When we get access to actual data and someone got it right, they got the bragging rights. And we can easily keep track of everyone’s predictions.
If you visit those professional academic or research forums, you will see that everyone simply states their own opinions and presents evidence. If no one can settle the argument, you will see things like “we will wait for more evidence”. And everyone moves on.
It is difficult to keep personal feelings in check when you are passionately arguing about things. I know that I have lost control many times. However, if we can create a professional environment, things will be easier for all of us. Being professional is what separates men from boys.
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