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Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) and Global South strategic cooperation
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To summarize China of the 1950s and 1960s aided pretty much all independence and communist revolutions by sending arms and even people. As a result most of the newly emerged nations during the collapse of European colonial empires were friendly to China. This is the reason why China could have 2/3rds of the UN vote in favor of replacing the ROC with the PRC. China had significant political influence in many places as can be evidenced by how many countries bought arms from China during those years.
agreements between China and Uzbekistan
interesting to build up their telecom, biotech, agro, auto & power sector
Uzbekistan also got a multimodal logistic centre
seems like with Uzbeks got a lot
Credit lines seem to be for borrowing money to Uzbekistan to buy Chinese product and services in RMB
interesting to build up their telecom, biotech, agro, auto & power sector
Uzbekistan also got a multimodal logistic centre
- Between the Commodity Exchange of the Republic of Uzbekistan and Dalyan Commodity Exchange;
seems like with Uzbeks got a lot
the playbook with central asia is similar to other global south countries except that China has even more incentive to pull these countries into its orbit
Kazakhstan opening pavilion at JD.com
looks like everyone wants to china to build EV factories in their country
Kazakhstan opening pavilion at JD.com
In 1960 most of Africa and much of Asia were still under colonial administration. China provided limited support to independence revolutions but a fraction of what the USSR did. Virtually all socialist countries sided with the USSR against China in the Sino-Soviet split, including the (ungrateful) North Koreans. The only exception being Albania.
The UN vote to replace the ROC with the PRC had nothing to with the number of allies Chinese had, but the thaw in US-Chinese relations and the American attempt to exploit the Sino-Soviet split. The Americans thought supporting China would help undermine the USSR, and the Soviets thought they could bring the Chinese back into the fold. Add to that the ridiculousness of having a tiny authoritarian island regime representing China at the UN while the most populous nation was completely unrepresented, it was turning the UN into a farce.
Even Pakistan wasn't a Chinese ally until the 1962 war, so I don't think you are right.
The UN vote to replace the ROC with the PRC had nothing to with the number of allies Chinese had, but the thaw in US-Chinese relations and the American attempt to exploit the Sino-Soviet split. The Americans thought supporting China would help undermine the USSR, and the Soviets thought they could bring the Chinese back into the fold. Add to that the ridiculousness of having a tiny authoritarian island regime representing China at the UN while the most populous nation was completely unrepresented, it was turning the UN into a farce.
Even Pakistan wasn't a Chinese ally until the 1962 war, so I don't think you are right.
Quite so. I think this is a perfectly acceptable arrangement and I've observed China adhering closely to it. Sadly, I can't quite say the same for Russia and its erstwhile obstructionism. But as I said before, this war has caused Russia to introspect deeply about its near abroad and come to the correct conclusions, so I'm more optimistic about future China-Russia cooperation in Central Asia.
I really hope that's the case and not just me looking at the situation through rose-tinted glasses, because it would be very unfortunate if frictions between China and Russia opened gaps for the enemy to operate. As you pointed out, there are illegitimate outside actors attempting to manipulate and destabilize this region.
Certainly true, but I think you sell Russia a bit short here. The US always has influence with the liberals every country is cursed with, but I think Russia has a lot more pull with a much broader swathe of the populations of Central Asia, both among the elite and the "salt of the Earth." It's inevitable given their shared history.
Really more interesting stuff from Kazakhstan this week
this is in their meeting with EU
One thing China needs to watch out for is Kazakhstan's reach out to European partners. Nothing wrong with competition. China just needs to outcompete EU guys in gaining access to Kazak mineral resources. That would be a major failing
From another article
this is in their meeting with EU
so again, BRI works because it's in these countries interest to work with China. They get paid for all the transit + loading/offloading freight with gauge change and across Caspian.
One thing China needs to watch out for is Kazakhstan's reach out to European partners. Nothing wrong with competition. China just needs to outcompete EU guys in gaining access to Kazak mineral resources. That would be a major failing
From another article
From Astana times
also repeated comment on local warehouses for JD and Alibaba
Again, things start from Xian. With improved railway passage through Kazakhstans, you can get to central/west asia, Europe and MENA The additional rail will increase capacity through Kazakhstan
so these are obviously things that will make it easier for China to conduct commerce with countries to the west. Speeding up the rail traffic, reducing bottleneck -> moving away from shipping and trucking
Provides access to local resource in exchange for Chinese auto industry.
Xian and Shaanxi province benefit greatly from commerce with Central Asia and BRI. Again, this will persuade more companies to move inland to Xian
Just as importantly, China need to be a center of attraction for talents from surrounding countries
More on this, the extensiveness of cooperation and agreements signed was very impressive
again, China needs copper access and securing access through processing is the way to go
More about HW helping local talents
oil & gas and more refining capacity in Kazakhstan
SPIC discussing with Kazakhstan about getting into the wind power production supply chain
again, basically you have China helping Kazakhstan grow and modernize their local economy. So there is going to be a lot of dependence built toward China from these countries.
Saudis normalized with Syria but not turkey at anytime soon.
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In contrast, currently, 148 countries have joined the BRI. China has investment agreements with more than 100 countries. China has 17 Free Trade Agreements and is negotiating 8 more.