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Taiban said:
But first understand the unique structure of Artillery in PLA of a standard Group Army by excluding Xinjiang (also 84th GroupArmy) and Tibet Military Regions (also 85th Group Army)
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85th Group Army has only three Combined Arms Brigades - 52nd, 53rd & 54th as compared to six in a normal group army but has eight border defense regiments from 351st to 358th. As I said earlier, I will take some time & provide valid proof for others too.
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Why are you writing fiction?

The 84th and 85th Group Armies do not exist.

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of Group Armies, and they are the 71st, 72nd, 73rd, 74th, 75th, 76th, 77th, 78th, 79th, 80th, 81st, 82nd and 83rd. So basically, PRC now has 13 Group Armies, which are numbered sequentially starting from number 71 and ends at number 83.

May I ask by whose authority have you formed two Group Armies and named them 84th and 85th, respectively? Did you receive official approval from President Xi Jinping before making such a momentous decision?

Oh well, now at least I know you can count up to 85. However, I would appreciate it if you could stop lying.


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by78 said:
Lhasa-based 54th
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How are you sure that 54th H-CAB is at Lhasa.

Few photos of their shift to Gyantse are available of December 2022 vintage. 20230726_171146.jpg20230726_171119.jpg


A tender bid by 54th H-CAB in 2020 for new location. Old location was Duilongdeqing District, Lhasa City which is not the location of MLRS images shared by me

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Incidentally 55th Light Combined Arms Brigade is part of 77th Group Army. Everything can have a counter question. How do you know it is Lhasa based?

I will restrict myself to prove the composition of a standard Group Army Artillery brigade and not answer every new question of yours.
 
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one battalion armed with 122mm MLRS, one battalion armed with 300mm MLRS, and two battalions armed with howitzers of various calibers. Therefore, according to Publication ATP 7-100.3, a PLA Group Army artillery brigade is unlikely to contain a 5th battalion, at least not notionally.
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While the Tibet Military Region's Artillery Brigade has minimum one each of PHL03 (300mm) MLRS, PCL191 (300, 370 mm etc), PCL181 Howitzer (ideally minimum five from satellite images), the next photograph I am sharing is of 74th Artillery Brigade's 2021 image with a similar profile of PCL191, PHL03 & PCL181. So, the US ATP is slightly outdated and should be updated to include PCL191 at least in the profile of a Group Army Artillery Brigades since 122mm MBRL / MLRS have gone down to Artillery Battalions of Combined Arms Brigades

Will be more than happy to keep adding more evidence not to prove my claim but to understand the speed of PLA's Mechanisation 20230726_181540.jpg20230726_181540.jpg
 
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While the Tibet Military Region's Artillery Brigade has minimum one each of PHL03 (300mm) MLRS, PCL191 (300, 370 mm etc), PCL181 Howitzer (ideally minimum five from satellite images), the next photograph I am sharing is of 74th Artillery Brigade's 2021 image with a similar profile of PCL191, PHL03 & PCL181. So, the US ATP is slightly outdated and should be updated to include PCL191 at least in the profile of a Group Army Artillery Brigades since 122mm MBRL / MLRS have gone down to Artillery Battalions of Combined Arms Brigades

Will be more than happy to keep adding more evidence not to prove my claim but to understand the speed of PLA's Mechanisation View attachment 116386View attachment 116386
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I will now share the satellite images of 74th Group Army Artillery Brigade at Dongguan, Guangdong. The images confirm minimum two battalions of PHL03, photo above confirms induction of minimum one PCL191 battalion, while minimum two howitzer battalions exist of different calibre (as per US ATP too). This generally indicates five battalions in the Brigade IMG-20230726-WA0015.jpgIMG-20230726-WA0014.jpg20230726_183053.jpg
 
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