Self Propelled Gun/Rocket Launcher

Temstar

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Blitzo said:
A PHL-191 (or PHL-16, it goes by many names -- domestic version of the AR3 modular MLRS)

In that image, it is configured with what looks like four 370mm rockets on one side, and a 750mm rocket in a canister on the other side, likely the domestic version of the "Fire Dragon 480".

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In tonight's Chahuahui Shilao said Ayi has been doing a lot of contrast analysis of that PHL-191 photo and he believes the other side is still 5 x 300mm rocket.
 
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Temstar said:
In tonight's Chahuahui Shilao said Ayi has been doing a lot of contrast analysis of that PHL-191 photo and he believes the other side is still 5 x 300mm rocket.
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I'm not sure why they would think that.

In the 5x 300mm configuration, there are four rockets arranged in a 2x2 square pattern with the fifth rocket in the middle of the square.
In the 4x 370mm configuration, there are only four rockets arranged in a 2x2 square pattern.

That image is clearly taken from a downwards facing angle looking up -- if it was the 5x 300mm configuration, then you would expect to see the fifth rocket between the "two" rockets of the "square" without the ability to see through a space between them through the center.

Whereas in a 4x 370mm configuration, as we've all seen from the PHL-191 on parade, it has a clear space between them through the center.



Frontal view of AR3 export, showing the five tube 300mm configuration and the four tube 370mm configuration, and how there's no center space on the five tube 300mm configuration as it's occupied by the fifth rocket tube.
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The PHL191/16/whatever it is, in service with a dual 5x 300mm (right side of vehicle) and 4x 370mm (left side of vehicle) configuration
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Blitzo said:
I'm not sure why they would think that.

In the 5x 300mm configuration, there are four rockets arranged in a 2x2 square pattern with the fifth rocket in the middle of the square.
In the 4x 370mm configuration, there are only four rockets arranged in a 2x2 square pattern.

That image is clearly taken from a downwards facing angle looking up -- if it was the 5x 300mm configuration, then you would expect to see the fifth rocket between the "two" rockets of the "square" without the ability to see through a space between them through the center.

Whereas in a 4x 370mm configuration, as we've all seen from the PHL-191 on parade, it has a clear space between them through the center.



Frontal view of AR3 export, showing the five tube 300mm configuration and the four tube 370mm configuration, and how there's no center space on the five tube 300mm configuration as it's occupied by the fifth rocket tube.
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The PHL191/16/whatever it is, in service with a dual 5x 300mm (right side of vehicle) and 4x 370mm (left side of vehicle) configuration
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I think it is 5*300

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zszczhyx

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Blitzo said:
??? You are suggesting that the solid canister/box is for 300mm rockets?

But I've already demonstrated what 300mm rockets look like and that they are in groups of five.
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The thing on the left is a set of five 300 mm rockets, between the two red lines in the middle is the fifth rocket. From the pictures you posted, it looks like there are differences in appearance between the self use version and the export version. I think the solid canister/box you mentioned is actually composed of a cuboid frame and five launch tubes.
 
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zszczhyx said:
The thing on the left is a set of five 300 mm rockets, between the two red lines in the middle is the fifth rocket. From the pictures you posted, it looks like there are differences in appearance between the self use version and the export version. I think the solid canister/box you mentioned is actually composed of a cuboid frame and five launch tubes.
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I see what you mean.

That is a possibility, but given the angle of the image relative to the tubes, knowing what the domestic in service 5x 300mm tube looks like, I would expect to see a hint of the front rounded caps of the individual rocket tubes, as well as a hint of space/sunlight peeking between the outer side of the tubes and the frame.

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Still, I agree it is possible that it may be 5x 300mm tubes, but it's a hell of an angle to make it look that solid.
 
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