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Ooops. That was a typo. I happened to be looking at some pictures of mortars when I was typing up the post and wrote the wrong word.
Self Propelled Gun/Rocket Launcher
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Ooops. That was a typo. I happened to be looking at some pictures of mortars when I was typing up the post and wrote the wrong word.
I always wondered if there was some kind of big gun tech that the PLA was developing which could send a guided muntion shell into a target in taiwan from the mainland. Sort of like the 'Paris Gun' the Germans had in WW1. They could fire it from German teritory 80 miles out and hit Paris. Of course it wasnt accurate. But im almost sure there is a French company today with this type of gun that fires a guided shell accurately 80 miles out. I think its called a Vulcan shell.
Does anybody know if there a 'Taiwan Gun' out there?
Does anybody know if there a 'Taiwan Gun' out there?
Until there is emergence of new technologies, that mission is better done by long range rocket artillery or by short range ballistic missiles.
The signifigance is that a guided shell is like 10k while a missile is easily 1 mil. Thats 100 shell hits for the price of 1 missile hit. The economic dimension is what makes it strategically significant.
Guided rocket artillery should not cost that much, and a guided shell is unlikely to be quite that cheap and it's likely to have a far smaller payload.
More importantly, the size of tube artillery needed to launch a projectile at such distances means an artillery piece like that would be highly immobile, vulnerable, and difficult to logistically support.
There's a reason why these concepts get proposed every few decades but military forces just go back to long range rocket artillery or missile systems.
Unless there is some sort of new technologies that changes the equation in favour of large tube artillery pieces, the matter is not really worth discussing.
the vulcano guided round is 100k. its still a factor of at least 10.
A 'Taiwan gun' can be hidden under heavy fortification. And there can be many located on the mainland.
Something like that would be game changing because it would overwelm any missile defense shield and the technology might be reachable with todays science.
A 'Taiwan gun' can be hidden under heavy fortification. And there can be many located on the mainland.
Something like that would be game changing because it would overwelm any missile defense shield and the technology might be reachable with todays science.
The thing is you can take a self-propelled rocket artillery vehicle to any other theatre and use it, it does not have to be restricted to be used against Taiwan only. But with the size of the artillery piece you are talking about it's mobility and therefore role will be quite limited outside Taiwan Strait issue.
Also if cost is an issue - then make the loser pay you back afterwards.
Also if cost is an issue - then make the loser pay you back afterwards.
How much is the artillery system? How many rounds can the tube fire before replacement is needed? These costs need to be factored in as well.
reparations is a mideval thing and they generally dont work in modern times. They prolly make things worse. Didnt Germany prove that after WW1?
Shells are generally cheaper than missiles. And im almost sure 150 mi missiles are crazy expensive to the tune of 2 mil a piece. a shahed is 50k tho. But im sure you can get a long range shell to cheaper with scale economies and make it rain fire on a city.
Shells are generally cheaper than missiles. And im almost sure 150 mi missiles are crazy expensive to the tune of 2 mil a piece. a shahed is 50k tho. But im sure you can get a long range shell to cheaper with scale economies and make it rain fire on a city.