Self Propelled Gun/Rocket Launcher

wssth0306

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I think they may be underestimating the tracked and overestimating the wheeled 155mms, but I suppose that's picking at details.

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@wssth0306
Overall, compared to the US Army, the PLAGF's total number of 155mm tubes is a little bit lower...

However:
- all PLAGF 155mm tubes are self propelled (tracked or wheeled), while about half of the US Army's 155mm tubes are towed (M777 family)
- all PLAGF 155mm tubes are organized at a higher echelon than the US Army's 155mm tubes were (in BCTs), however PLAGF 155mm tubes can have individual units (battalions for example) attached to a brigade if needed. Of course the US Army is undergoing a reorganization as well (return of divisional artillery), but I don't expect their total number of 155mm tubes to greatly change in the immediate future.
- most importantly, the PLAGF's 155mm tubes are still growing in number, and they are also augmented by 1000+ 122mm tubes the vast majority of which are self propelled


I personally do not feel either the PLAGF or US Army's tube artillery force is superior or inferior to the other.
I agree , the main disadvantage that PLAGF has compared to US army is the Army Aviation ,but that a different subject completely
 

Blitzo

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I agree , the main disadvantage that PLAGF has compared to US army is the Army Aviation ,but that a different subject completely

Your original question was about tube artillery, so I assume you asked the question on a false premise (underestimating how many 155mm tube artillery pieces the PLAGF actually had).

The nature of these questions and even this follow up is a bit strange because it's like you're trying to directly compare the PLAGF and US Army structures whereas they really need to be treated in their own contexts.
 

Wrought

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In addition, the Firepower Regiments of 4th, 6th, 8th and 11th Combined-Arms Divisions of Xinjiang Military Region also have two 155mm PCL181 Battalions each

Bit of a tangent, but why did they retain divisions there anyhow? Everywhere else switched over to brigades.
 

Taiban

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Bit of a tangent, but why did they retain divisions there anyhow? Everywhere else switched over to brigades.
Probably because of Terrain friction, distance involved, appreciated force friction and maybe even lessons from Russian Retention of Divisions at few places
 

Index

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I agree , the main disadvantage that PLAGF has compared to US army is the Army Aviation ,but that a different subject completely
Not really, they just do different things. PLAGF formations have much better built in air defenses, and the army aviation is geared towards anti air/precision strike.

Much of what US army relies on for mass strikes, PLAGF doesn't use aircraft for but rather guided missiles.

Overall, China's forces are geared for defense and to some degree assumes the enemy needs to have a network centric doctrine - the PLA doctrine is to break the joints (force multipliers, network nodes, logistical bottlenecks) of an aggressor army, which assumes that said army must be organized to begin with. Against a small insurgent force, China can likely repeat NATO style battle, but it's not what the whole PLA structure is geared for.
 

by78

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VN-22 8x8 self-propelled howitzer.

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