Russian Su-57 Aircraft Thread (PAK-FA and IAF FGFA)

[aksha]

So FGFA is happening for sure. No more yellow journalism based ammunition for the critics now. That was obvious given the air chief said the PDP was signed after the Russians had transferred all the required documents for the phase.

It looks like Rafale is a done deal too. Dassault's CEO said something similar. Contract negotiations are finished. What's pending is the liabilities. MoS said India wants the best quality possible from the Indian made Rafales. A French delegation will arrive in Bangalore, I believe tomorrow.

So both deals could be wrapped up in the next two months. The FGFA will be done earlier by the looks of it, maybe in the next few days.

hehe
explains ajai shukla's U-turn
must have known................

he was the one who said the F35 will be superior to the FGFA

now he says that the PAK FA will be in the same league as F22
he even says it is likely to be the best 5 th gen fighter

 

[A Bar Brother]

hehe
explains ajai shukla's U-turn
must have known................

he was the one who said the F35 will be superior to the FGFA

now he says that the PAK FA will be in the same league as F22

Where did he say all of this?

he even says it is likely to be the best 5 th gen fighter

Shush. That's speculation.

 

[aksha]

Where did he say all of this?



Shush. That's speculation.

he did say ,trust me,he has singing that all yesterday and today,he was aero india

by the way this what they showed aero india today

 

[Air Force Brat]

Where did he say all of this?
Shush. That's speculation.

Actually PAK-FA being superior to the F-22 is just Non-Sense!
On his blog today he reports that the excitement of three Rafael's is tempered by the Rafael deal spiraling into the ground??
I'd say he sings whatever tune is in style at the moment??? how bout you?

But I did promise the Russians would up their game with India, and they have really "put on the dog"! nice FGFA display aircraft.

 

[Jeff Head]

Russia, India to Start Manufacture of First Test Models of T-50 Fighter Jet

Russia and India are moving into the phase of constructing the first test models of the Russian-Indian fifth-generation T-50 fighter jet with stealth capabilities, the deputy head of Russian arms exporter Rosoboronexport said Tuesday.

The first test aircraft is scheduled to be created after 2018.

That sums it up. Minimum of three years before the first prototype/test T-50 is "created."

They say sometime "after" 2018.

As to it being somehow "better" than the F-22.

Well, that is pure speculation...and talk is cheap.

The proof will be in the pudding...and we already have real smooth, rich, creamy, and tasty F-22 pudding on the table. The other pudding is not edible yet.

 

[A Bar Brother]

he did say ,trust me,he has singing that all yesterday and today,he was aero india

I meant if he has been quoted somewhere so I can read it.

 

[A Bar Brother]

Actually PAK-FA being superior to the F-22 is just Non-Sense!
On his blog today he reports that the excitement of three Rafael's is tempered by the Rafael deal spiraling into the ground??
I'd say he sings whatever tune is in style at the moment??? how bout you?

Actually, the PAKFA being superior to the F-22 is not his opinion. He is just repeating what HAL has said before, considering he did say it. The Stage-1 specs alone are superior to the next best jet, but that is all I want to say about it.

His reputation is all the more worse because he used to be a Colonel in the army, and not some random scribe. He has done plenty of U-turns before, not the first time. Btw, he was the one who wrote the FGFA criticism article saying it is badly engineered and etc etc.

The Rafale deal may spiral to the ground for reasons that are entirely different from what he says.

But I did promise the Russians would up their game with India, and they have really "put on the dog"! nice FGFA display aircraft.

I don't believe that's a Russian made model, it is a HAL made model.

 

[Air Force Brat]

Actually, the PAKFA being superior to the F-22 is not his opinion. He is just repeating what HAL has said before, considering he did say it. The Stage-1 specs alone are superior to the next best jet, but that is all I want to say about it.

His reputation is all the more worse because he used to be a Colonel in the army, and not some random scribe. He has done plenty of U-turns before, not the first time. Btw, he was the one who wrote the FGFA criticism article saying it is badly engineered and etc etc.

The Rafale deal may spiral to the ground for reasons that are entirely different from what he says.



I don't believe that's a Russian made model, it is a HAL made model.

You are no doubt right about the model being made by HAL, however, I'm rather certain the Russians have "come across" with more details and the intention to bring this aircraft to some final form by 2018, the Russians are very capable of some high level and very Kool equipement. The Su-27 is a perfect example, they produced a large but very adaptable and happy airplane, no doubt the PAK-FA is following along in those same footsteps, but as to it being superior to the F-22, the F-22 continues to evolve and gain capabilities, the T-50 is really just beginning the LRIP process if we can believe that.

I will today and have always conceded that the T-50 will be a very agile aircraft, and may indeed "edge out the F-22 in super-maneuverability.
However, I no longer hold supermaneuverability to be as critical as I did, but also for the record, it is a wonderful attribute to have if in fact you do somehow get drawn in to a WVR scenario

 

[aksha]

 

[aksha]

Power supply system PAK FA twice as powerful analogues

The Russian fifth generation multirole fighter T-50 (PAK FA) system equipped with a DC power supply, which is two times more powerful than all the Russian counterparts, told RIA Novosti on Tuesday the general director of the holding company "Aircraft Equipment" (part of the state corporation "Rostec") Maxim Kuzyuk.

"For the fifth-generation aircraft holding company created a system DC power SPTSU-7.5, which is about twice as powerful as all existing Russian counterparts," - said Kuzyuk.

He noted that SPTSU-7.5 "converts the three-phase voltage variable frequency generator to a DC voltage 27 volts nominal capacity of more than 8 kW, providing the stability of all electronic systems and the safety of the aircraft."
"The weight of the new system in one and a half times less than that of counterparts," - said the head of the holding.

A similar system will be equipped with electricity and Russian-Indian fifth-generation aircraft FGFA, at the heart of which is laid, the PAK FA project.

PAK FA - Russia's fifth-generation multi-role fighter.The use of composite materials and innovative technologies, aerodynamic design aircraft, the characteristics of the engine provides unprecedented low level of radar, optical and infrared signature.As reported in January this year, the head of the "United Aircraft Corporation" Yuri Slyusarev, the corporation begins to supply the initial batch of fighter for the Russian Defense Ministry

Holding "Aircraft Equipment" is specialized in developing, manufacturing and after-sales service systems and units of aircraft.Additionally, the company produces parts and components for industries such as oil and gas, automotive, transport, energy."Aircraft Equipment" includes 35 companies located throughout Russia - Moscow, Moscow region, Ufa, Samara, Ulyanovsk, Omsk, Arkhangelsk region and other regions of Russia.Holding a part of the state corporation "Rostec."



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