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anzha

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Abominable said:
50 days at war in the Black Sea against an adversary with no navy and not much to do. It would be possible to get complacent and overlook ignore an incoming missile as a false alarm.
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That is possible. However, the Captain and senior officers of the Moskva ought to be in deep trouble over that. That does not appear to be the case.

We suffer from situation where every source should be considered an unreliable narrator, but the Ukrainians have stated they have tried before to bag the Moskva. That warship? The flagship? So close? It'd be a huge propaganda win. That would suggest the Moskva successfully fought off previous attempts.

Both of those would suggest the Russians were just outplayed. OTOH, you could be right. We have a dearth of information still.
 
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Tam

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As far as I'm aware, SPS-67 lacks any ducting ability. It's basically a navigation radar, and you can add the ability to detect, follow and track flying objects to any navigation radar. However you will only be limited to 2D information. It's getting replaced by the SPQ-9B on newer ships, and when ships are upgraded to Aegis Baseline.

Burke uses COBLU and SQS-32 aka SEWIP for long range OTH passive detection. COBLU uses a choke antenna on top of the spindle mast, where you can find the ship's TACAN, IFF, ESM and CEC.
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Going to add that the Burke switch from SPS-67 (S band) to SPQ-9B (X-band) might be related to the clutter and propagation issues, and why X-band is better for surface scanning against low flying threats.
 
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Abominable

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anzha said:
That is possible. However, the Captain and senior officers of the Moskva ought to be in deep trouble over that. That does not appear to be the case.

We suffer from situation where every source should be considered an unreliable narrator, but the Ukrainians have stated they have tried before to bag the Moskva. That warship? The flagship? So close? It'd be a huge propaganda win. That would suggest the Moskva successfully fought off previous attempts.

Both of those would suggest the Russians were just outplayed. OTOH, you could be right. We have a dearth of information still.
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No matter what they say publically, I'm sure the Russians work under the assumption every military in the world does. In a time of war losses are assumed to be the result of enemy action first.
 
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Kich

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Botnet said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1515819102828388361
Moskva sinking?
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The midsection although burned is fairly intact, structure wise. Looking through old sinkex images, there's always a huge structure entry hole. I don't see one here and this image seems early before the fire probably got worse.

This superstructure seems intact. I don't think missiles did this.

Example. USS Ingraham after getting hit by two NSM. I should add that the Neptune reportedly has 330 lb warhead compared to the 276 lb of the NSM.

I'm not 100% certain on this claim on my part but that's what I think. A higher quality image would have been good.
 

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Kich

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Bucking in the midsection. She might be in two pieces at the bottom of the sea.

We need a better picture. The white smoke obscures any potential entry holes. And there should a fairly decent one for a warhead over 300 lb.
 

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