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daifo

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I would have to disagree. They can easily fall for Western influence as long as the West still has some degree of economic leadership. Despite all of their boasting, they in reality yearn for the West to recognize them as Western and as equals. If the title, “Western”, turns into something one despises, I guarantee you they will definitely not fall into the Western sphere of influence.

Russia had never been a true ally and countries have never been “true” allies. The reason why this myth of a true alliance is brought up is because the West won the Cold War and had the largest combined economy in the world. If (more like when at this point) they lose that advantage and have to depend on another country for their meals, they will eat each other like a pack of starving dogs over a hunk of meat.

Now, back on topic, I believe that even if (emphasis on if) this fighter is a true 5th gen fighter and is good enough to pose a challenge to the current PLAAF, PLAN, or even the USN and USAF, its delivery may take a couple of years if we use the Su57’s delivery and production timeline as a model. In short, in a couple of years, thanks to the ongoing de facto arms race, the advantage the 5th generation fighters enjoyed for the past few decades will have been eroded.

Most people are expecting this to be just a "mock up". It took the Su57 over 10 years from prototype to limited operational capability.

The more capable SU57 has already been an option for both India and Vietnam already. India dropped out and Vietnam is supposely buy a couple dozens in the 2030s to replace their flankers
 

sheogorath

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Similarly, a Russian attempt to join US to contain China doesn't mean Russia gives up it's core interests in Eastern Europe or Middle East...

It actually does, as the US adopted a position of "with US or against US", there won't be any concesions to Russian interests, specially as they still insist on expanding NATO into their interests, something the US kept doing even during the height of their "good" relationship with Yeltsin.

As a matter of fact, it is beneficial for Russia that China stays a threat to the US instead of participating with the gringos in any containment as the US is an empire on the way out, with waning influence and power and nothing to offer anyone anymore other than war.

Not literally same Emperors, but PRC's claim on Taiwan relies on claiming continuation of Qing dynasty claims as successor state to Qing and ROC states, since PRC never held jurisdiction over Taiwan island, and Japan signed Shiminoseki Treaty with Qing, and not PRC/ROC. So yes, CPC does claim itself as continuation or successor state to Qing and ROC. I don't see a problem with that.

Succesor state, yes, just as Russia is the succesor state of the Russian Soviets. That's not the same as succesor regime, which is my point and what the west racistly claims, that Xi Jinping is just an Emperor with a new title and that all chinese are just brainwashed uneducated subjects of the emperor.


I would have to disagree. They can easily fall for Western influence as long as the West still has some degree of economic leadership. Despite all of their boasting, they in reality yearn for the West to recognize them as Western and as equals.

Equals, yes, just as China does. Western?. Hardly.

They'd be trying mimic every western aspect out there, starting with LGBT rights, intead of going their own, very backwards(even compared to the USSR) way.
 

james smith esq

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Based solely on this pic, does this platform seem to be designed to force adversarial fifth generation platforms into WVR combat, much like the MiG-21 was designed for dogfighting? Could that be a viable strategy for contesting 5th gen domination?
 
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Deino

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Interesting would be - and even more much more important - is it state-founded or only from UAC, what's the budget, is the RuAF interested or are there other nations providing founds. Otherwise it will remain simply what it is right now: A fancy mock up and excieting PR-stunt.


@james smith esq ... I'm sorry if I offended you with this post, but care to explain why you are angry?
 

james smith esq

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@james smith esq ... I'm sorry if I offended you with this post, but care to explain why you are angry?
Emoji angry is not real angry. I certainly was not offended. You just came down a lil’ hard on the poor Russians trying to impress us.

However, please tell your namesake to stop postponing her boxing match. I’ve posted her bout in the sports thread, twice; she’s making me look bad on here!
 

SlothmanAllen

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So I guess this is supposed to be like modern 4th generation fighter? I know we don't know the exact specifications, but can the Russian's realistically offer anything to compete with the latest single engine 4th gen fighters from the West? Will this be sold specifically to countries who are on the West's shit list?
 
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