TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Well this makes things more interesting.
Once upon a time in the 60s the Russians introducedthe BMP1 with a low velocity 73mm gun.
Then they introduced the improved BMP2 with a 30x163mm gun
Then they introduced the BMP3 with all the guns a 30mm and a low velocity 100mm smooth bore. They sold that to China.
Now they have elected for standardizing on the 57mm high velocity gun.
The French and British partnered and have there own 40mm CT gun system. Now being fitted to there next gen vehicles.
The German' s puma packs a 30mm gun but the Rhinmetal Lynx has a 35x228mm gun that I will come back to.
The Japanese went to a 35mm for there IFV
The South Koreans are big believers in go big or go home and use a 40x364mm Bofors of indigenous type the Swedish use the original L70 Bofors for their CV90 (for the record AC130 uses L60 guns which are different)
Most of the rest of the world chose to go with 25mm like the Bradley or 30mm like the Stryker.
Recently at the U.S. Army AUSA the Army voiced concerns about the range and overmarch of the Russian and Chinese mixed 30mm and 100 50mm guns and to counter it they started looking at a necked out 35mm cannon round called 50mm Supershot. This any 35mm gun (like the Lynx mounted one) could be built to fire. Now the Russians push to preemptively up gun to 57x347mmSR.
Of course questions still remain like can they afford to rebuild there existing armored fleet to these new guns? The ammo types are plentiful but the turrets are new and all the conversions would need a new turret.
Once upon a time in the 60s the Russians introducedthe BMP1 with a low velocity 73mm gun.
Then they introduced the improved BMP2 with a 30x163mm gun
Then they introduced the BMP3 with all the guns a 30mm and a low velocity 100mm smooth bore. They sold that to China.
Now they have elected for standardizing on the 57mm high velocity gun.
Now the PLA at there trade shows has shown off a 40mm cased Teliscoped gun.Russian APC and IFV armored to be armed with 57mm guns
POSTED ON THURSDAY, 15 NOVEMBER 2018 06:1
The Russian Defense Ministry approved an armor development concept. All light armored vehicles (infantry fighting vehicles (IFV), armored personnel carriers (APC) and others) will have new maximum caliber of 57mm. The guns will be universal and will destroy tanks and down drones. The light armor with 57mm guns will have an edge against other combat vehicles of the class, the Izvestia daily writes.
2S38 "Derivatsya-PVO" self-propelled air defense system at Army-2018 defense exhibition near Moscow, August 2018. (Picture source: Army Recognition)
The Defense Ministry told the newspaper the new armor concept was approved this year. It was preceded by R&D which confirmed the feasibility of arming the vehicles with 57mm guns. At present IFV and APC are armed with 30mm or 100mm launchers. The latest armed conflicts showed they are not always effective against high-speed and armored targets. The more powerful 57mm gun will help Russian light armor fight APC and IFV and any adversary tank. It will destroy sights, heat imagers and other outside equipment or destroy highly protected Abrams tank by a side hit.
Armed jeeps and drones frequently become the main targets rather than hostile APC or IFV at present. They have to be destroyed at maximum distance with a minimal number of shells. The infantry mounted on light vehicles shall be denied a chance of the first strike with antitank guided missiles, while drones shall be barred from transmitting information to the command post.
The Russian defense industry has designed hardware that meets the latest combat requirements. and can be armed with 57mm automatic remotely controlled Baikal AU-220M artillery module. It has a high rate of fire up to 120 rounds per minute. The same gun can be mounted on heavy tracked platform created on Armata basis. Unmanned Kinzhal combat module has been designed for it. Its gun can fire to a distance of over 14 kilometers.
57mm guns are known as reliable antiaircraft weapons. The Soviet Union produced ZSU-57-2 self-propelled guns which were used in the war in Vietnam, Arab-Israeli and Iran-Iraq wars. ZSU had to destroy jets, but the absence of an automated radar decreased the effectiveness. The Russian defense industry coped with the problem. The prospective self-propelled with 57mm gun on BMP-3 undercarriage will be dangerous for helicopters and jets. A 57mm guided shell has been designed and is being tested to destroy low-signature and low-flying targets like tactical drones or MLRS projectiles, cruise missiles and other precision munitions.
The new guns will increase the firepower of the ground forces, expert Sergey Suvorov said. "He who rapidly fulfils the fire mission wins the modern war. 57mm caliber produces higher precision, destructive effect and armor-piercing capability than 30mm guns," he said. It has to ensure superiority of Russian hardware over foreign APC and IFV for years to come, the Izvestia writes.
The French and British partnered and have there own 40mm CT gun system. Now being fitted to there next gen vehicles.
The German' s puma packs a 30mm gun but the Rhinmetal Lynx has a 35x228mm gun that I will come back to.
The Japanese went to a 35mm for there IFV
The South Koreans are big believers in go big or go home and use a 40x364mm Bofors of indigenous type the Swedish use the original L70 Bofors for their CV90 (for the record AC130 uses L60 guns which are different)
Most of the rest of the world chose to go with 25mm like the Bradley or 30mm like the Stryker.
Recently at the U.S. Army AUSA the Army voiced concerns about the range and overmarch of the Russian and Chinese mixed 30mm and 100 50mm guns and to counter it they started looking at a necked out 35mm cannon round called 50mm Supershot. This any 35mm gun (like the Lynx mounted one) could be built to fire. Now the Russians push to preemptively up gun to 57x347mmSR.
Of course questions still remain like can they afford to rebuild there existing armored fleet to these new guns? The ammo types are plentiful but the turrets are new and all the conversions would need a new turret.
