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once again looking at
Mar 23, 2016
(unspecified group of) МиГ-29КР/КУБР (something in English:
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) this week started to fly off
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the original source seems to be
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it should be easy for your to provide a link backing up the closing statement you made in
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/russian-military-news-reports-data-etc.t1545/page-328#post-394699
right, FORBIN? :)

anyway, according to
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quoting
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Russia lost #3 spot in Military spending to Saudi Arabia:
The United States remained by far the world’s biggest spender in 2015, despite its expenditure falling by 2.4 per cent to $596 billion. Among the other top spenders, China’s expenditure rose by 7.4 per cent to $215 billion, Saudi Arabia’s grew by 5.7 per cent to
$87.2 billion—making it the world’s third-largest spender—and Russia’s increased by
7.5 per cent to $66.4 billion.
 
Mar 22, 2016
(concerns Project 11356 ship the Admiral Essen (751)):

... and the sea-trials will go on in Barents Sea, where she is to sail tomorrow, according to
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she's arrived:
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to
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(by the way Leningrad-Murmansk
Distance 2221 nautical miles
according to
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before somebody starts to nitpick :) the Admiral Essen first sailed to Kronstadt (from Kaliningrad), before moving up north)
 

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Further "anecdotal evidence" that the T-50 continues to be behind the power curve, I believe 6-2 should have already rolled out and first flighted. Certainly not proof positive?? but it does lead one to wonder what the holdup is, supposed entering service in 2017???
Obviously its not far enough along to "start with the first string"?
I have read first combat Sqn of 12 IOC for 2020 before planned 2017-18,
With less money coz energy they prefer ordered 4+ generation less expensive ( fly away 40/70 mill $ vs T-50 100 or + ? ) whose the last batch of 50 Su-35 the new of 30 Su-30SM, for Su-34 they get more time about 40 again to delivered.
 
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You quote too :rolleyes: what you want know ?

I want to know how can you back up your statement
"no they have already started a year ago."
you made in
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/russian-military-news-reports-data-etc.t1545/page-328#post-394699
which is your post naysaying this:
Mar 23, 2016
(unspecified group of) МиГ-29КР/КУБР (something in English:
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according to
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anti-tank missiles "Vikhr-1" entered service:
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maybe I'll add some links here ... EDIT
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contains bragging about the speed of "Vikhr-1" says 610 m/s (now I checked wiki for
AGM-114 Hellfire, says 450 /ms)

before my edit time is over :)
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Russian Tanks

Fleet according ISS
350 T-90 curiously also 200 in storage
450 T-80BV/UM replaced by T-72B3
600 T-72B3 about 100 former T-72B modernised by year
1300 T-72B/BA
Total 2700 tanks

Russians tanks get a good gun but are less protected mainly as last Western Tanks especialy her pasive/active protection is less efficient vs shell which have a much more big speed and no electronic as ATGM.
Less big also and much more uncomfortable after a long displacement the crew is very tired !

~ 300 T-14 max for 2020 seems reasonnable some officials Russians say a year ago 2000 ! they dream :rolleyes:

Get Ready, NATO: Russia's Cold War T-72 Tank Is Set for a Big Upgrade

Moscow’s new T-14 Armata looks to be the most advanced main battle tank that Russia has ever produced. Indeed, many analysts share the view that the Armata might be more than a match for the best Western tank designs--which has prompted Germany to embark on a plan to upgrade the long-serving Leopard 2 with a new
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However, while the Armata looks to be a formidable design, it is very expensive--and given the state of Russia’s economy--Moscow might not be able to afford to produce the tank in large numbers. “The high cost of the Armata tank is expected to limit procurement,” writes
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. “According to unofficial sources, the cost per tank is approximately 400 million rubles, which is more than double that of the German Leopard-2 and about 60-75% higher than that of the French Leclerc and U.S. M-1 Abrams. Yuri Borisov, the deputy defense minister responsible for procurement, has indicated that the cost is about 2.5 times higher than stated in the State Armaments Programme.”

According to Rostec--a state corporation dedicated to facilitating Russian technology exports--
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Armata manufacturer Uralvagonzavod stated earlier that it could produce up to 40 tanks in 2016, 70 in 2017 and up to 120 per year from 2018 onwards. That means, Gorenburg writes, the absolute maximum number of Armata tanks that Russia could have in service by 2020 is about 330.

The alternative for Russia is to instead continue to buy additional new-build T-90AMs or some other advanced version of the T-90 series tank. Those vehicles are not as pricey as the Armata, but could cost more than $4.5 million per tank. Another alternative--one which Russia is pursuing to an extent--is to the expand the T-72B3M modernization program.

According to
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deputy general director Alex Zharich, who spoke to the
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, Russia plans to spend 2.5 billion rubles to upgrade one hundred and fifty T-72Bs to the new B3M standard for an average of 17 million rubles per tank. In U.S. dollar terms, that’s a total of $35 million for an average of $234,000 per tank—which means the T-72B3M upgrade is a relative bargain for the capability the vehicle is expected to deliver.

According to Izvestia, the upgraded tank will get a new 2A46M5 125-millimeter smoothbore gun along with a new sighting system called the Sosna-U, which will be paired with the 1A40-4 fire-control system. The tank will also receive a new ballistics computer to help increase its accuracy. Perhaps more significantly, the T-72B3M will receive an independent PK PAN sight for the tank commander, which has its own thermal imaging system.

The T-72B3M is also getting the new Relikt explosive reactive armor (ERA) package that was first introduced on the T-90AM. The Relikt replaces the older Kontakt-5 ERA package, and is allegedly twice as effective as the older system. The T-72B3M will also receive a new 1,130hp V-92S2F to replace its original 780hp diesel engine. The new engine is coupled with a new automatic transmission system and improved drivetrain, which should improve the T-72’s mobility. The driver will also receive a new rear-view camera display to improve his situational awareness.

The upgraded vehicles would offer performance comparable to the much more modern T-90, but for a fraction of the price. That might be a more economical plan than a brand new fleet of Armatas.

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T-72B3
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T-72B3M
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