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kwaigonegin

kwaigonegin

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TerraN_EmpirE said:
Seems the Victory day Parade was not as cool as we all though. One of the SA-11 Buk's through a impromptu Barbecue.
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That's embarrassing. Crap like this can happen anywhere to any country however when it happened on the country's biggest military parade in decades it's a terrible thing to witness. Part of me feels bad for the Russian ground forces.
 
Miragedriver

Miragedriver

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Takeoff of the New Antonov An-178

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(defensa.com) Last Thursday saw the maiden flight of the new transport plane An-178 of the Ukrainian manufacturer Antonov. The first plane took off from the airfield of the company Svyatoschin, near Kiev, and landed on the flight test range in Gostomel Antonov, journey which lasted for an hour. A second plane would already be under construction.

The Ukrainian aerospace company has developed this new airlifter is being offered for both the military and the civilian market. The An-178 transport aircraft is a derivative of passenger twin-engine aircraft such as the Antonov An-148 (75 seats) and An-158 (99 seats). Shares a large number of components with these two aircrafts regard to structural parts such as avionics or motors.

It has a high-wing configuration with a rear ramp for loading and rolloff and is equipped with two turbofan engines D-436 type of Ukrainian manufacturer Ivchenko-Progress. Among its features include the capacity of 18 tons or 70 paratroopers, has pressurized cargo cabin, a cruising speed of 445 knots, a cruising altitude of 39,600 feet and a range of 3400 miles.

Antonov believes that this new airplane can be a candidate to replace the Antonov An-12, An-26 and An-32 in many countries, in fact announced the first contracts have gotten. The airline transport Azerbaijan Silk Way Airlines have hired ten aircraft and an undisclosed Chinese company would have done the same with two more planes.

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Miragedriver

Miragedriver

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janjak desalin said:
this pic gives a glimpse under the skin and reveals what i'm seeing (or imagining i'm seeing) as a fairly conventional rounded turret!
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Most people think that the Armata is a terrific new platform. Obviously very good value.
Certainly as good as foreign analogues. Probably better than them.

It’s interesting to note the foreign media spin on it all. America claims that the move is towards lighter, maneuverable vehicles and
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, airstrikes robotics etc etc.

So I wonder where state of the art tanks will fit into the military doctrines of the next 10/20 yrs in different fighting environments.

Obviously stage one would be drone reconnaissance and long range missile strikes. Followed by shorter range missiles and air superiority. Next would come artillery shelling etc. At some point of this there would be undercover airborne special force deployments. Later on, there might be Airborne troop deployment.

But I wonder where Armata tank deployment might come in.
The concern is that anti tank missiles might be used by single enemy ground troops who are hard to detect, and could potentially take out an expensive tank with several troops in.

The tank itself might have a range of 7000 meters? Yet be vulnerable to a single enemy hidden in rubble, just 100m away. Obviously Chechnya 1 was a horror film for tanks.
Doubtless Armata is vastly better than those tanks.

My post is not meant as a criticism of Armata battle tanks, far from it. As I believe it to be truly cutting edge. I'm just wondering where it fits in vs enemy troops, tanks, choppers etc.

Obviously the answer would differ on who the enemy was. For instance a conflict in the Mideast, a European War, in Asia etc etc.


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Miragedriver

Miragedriver

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It was a very simple but very profound act. Tovarich General simply crossed himself before he began the parade. That never happened before at this parade.

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That was the most pleasant surprise of the parade. More powerful than Armata or any other weapon system


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Miragedriver

Miragedriver

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Russian Yak-130 operational trainer may be fitted with weapons, radar and avionics manufactured in
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, Vzglyad reports with reference to the head of Regional Marketing Department of Irkut Corporation, Viktor Lichaev.

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«There is a project for adaptation of Yak-130 jets to weapons, avionics and radar manufactured in Brazil and other Latin American countries. This is a hot topic,» Lichaev said at LAAD-2015 exhibition.

According to him, Irkut hopes to occupy a niche in Latin America by means of “promoting Yak-130 at Brazilian and other markets”, because members of the Union of
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are developing a registry of similar weapons and equipment.

Yak-130 operational trainer (NATO reporting name: Mitten) is designed for pilot training and combat missions. The jet is capable of destroying ground and air targets. The jet performed its maiden flight in 1996 and was selected as the primary trainer of the Russian air forces in 2002. Algeria became the launch customer for
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(among foreign countries). This year Yak-130 jets will be delivered to Belarus and Bangladesh.

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with Scipio radar from AMX could be quite good option for South American customers. I think Irkut have an eye on Brazil and Argentina for them.

With a small radar it would make a neat little fighter... especially if you take out the two existing engines and swap them for an upgraded RD-33 with 9 tons of thrust... it should make it supersonic....

Much better than a FTC-2000G/JL-9G


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kwaigonegin

kwaigonegin

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Miragedriver said:
Most people think that the Armata is a terrific new platform. Obviously very good value.
Certainly as good as foreign analogues. Probably better than them.

It’s interesting to note the foreign media spin on it all. America claims that the move is towards lighter, maneuverable vehicles and
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, airstrikes robotics etc etc.

So I wonder where state of the art tanks will fit into the military doctrines of the next 10/20 yrs in different fighting environments.

Obviously stage one would be drone reconnaissance and long range missile strikes. Followed by shorter range missiles and air superiority. Next would come artillery shelling etc. At some point of this there would be undercover airborne special force deployments. Later on, there might be Airborne troop deployment.

But I wonder where Armata tank deployment might come in.
The concern is that anti tank missiles might be used by single enemy ground troops who are hard to detect, and could potentially take out an expensive tank with several troops in.

The tank itself might have a range of 7000 meters? Yet be vulnerable to a single enemy hidden in rubble, just 100m away. Obviously Chechnya 1 was a horror film for tanks.
Doubtless Armata is vastly better than those tanks.

My post is not meant as a criticism of Armata battle tanks, far from it. As I believe it to be truly cutting edge. I'm just wondering where it fits in vs enemy troops, tanks, choppers etc.

Obviously the answer would differ on who the enemy was. For instance a conflict in the Mideast, a European War, in Asia etc etc.


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I think that as long as the 'other' person still has an MBT, they won't be going away anytime soon. With the new Armata being publicly shown now to the world I can bet you the pressure is on to stay on track with the Abrams ECP1 program.

Personally if you ask me the day the MBT goes the way of the dodo is when you have actual armored mechs running (literally) around the battlefield but that is far far away into the deep wide yonder.
 
Black Shark

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The tank is not going anywhere. Heavy armored plattforms will stay as long you have militaries and you have operational and tactical targets which you need to protect or seize depending on your situation. You are not going to capture and hold operational and tactical valueable locations with drones, helicopter or jets and you won't hold them long with APC's or IFV's not to mention trying to capture such locations with LAV's against insurgents or soldiers with ATGM's and RPG's which would crack your tanks like toys. The only vehicle that can survive and capture or sustain controll of position are heavy armored plattforms such as tanks. Tank vs Tank is WW2 stuff, today like in recent past Tanks met most of the time infantry with RPG's and ATGM's that is the most common threat to tanks followed by Mortar/Artillery and Helicopters (CAS Aircraft), less often Jets. Tank vs Tank will lose more its significance but BMPT type vehicle with optimized and improved Anti Personal capability will increase and for Anti Tank role they still have ATGM's.
 
kwaigonegin

kwaigonegin

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Black Shark said:
The tank is not going anywhere. Heavy armored plattforms will stay as long you have militaries and you have operational and tactical targets which you need to protect or seize depending on your situation. You are not going to capture and hold operational and tactical valueable locations with drones, helicopter or jets and you won't hold them long with APC's or IFV's not to mention trying to capture such locations with LAV's against insurgents or soldiers with ATGM's and RPG's which would crack your tanks like toys. The only vehicle that can survive and capture or sustain controll of position are heavy armored plattforms such as tanks. Tank vs Tank is WW2 stuff, today like in recent past Tanks met most of the time infantry with RPG's and ATGM's that is the most common threat to tanks followed by Mortar/Artillery and Helicopters (CAS Aircraft), less often Jets. Tank vs Tank will lose more its significance but BMPT type vehicle with optimized and improved Anti Personal capability will increase and for Anti Tank role they still have ATGM's.
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While I agree with most of your post I think tank vs tank battles is still very alive and well now and in the near future.
The ONLY reason we have not seen much of it is because for the most part there hasn't been any real conflict between nations but that doesn't mean it won't ever happen again. Almost all the battles that has been fought since Gulf War I has been asymmetrical in nature... fighting insurgencies, terrorist groups, tribal warfare etc.
If there ever comes a time where you have a global war (I pray it never happens) or a regional war between actual nation states, combined arms attack, tank vs tank can and most likely will happen again.
There are still many hundreds of thousands of tanks from MBTs to light tanks in this world that there is still much potential for them to clash head on.
 
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