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pmc

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These TB-2 type drones need runway. Smaller drones with stealthy shaping work much better. this TB-2 is medium altitude slow drone. even attack choppers are better as those not need runways and fly below missile ranges at much higher speeds with diverse loads.
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Sergey Chemezov: “Supercam” S350 is one of the best Russian reconnaissance UAVs

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Video episodes showing how the engines of Russian military equipment are started. The video shows the BTR-82A armored personnel carrier, the T-72B3M tank, the Tornado-G MLRS, the MT-LBu multi-purpose armored personnel carrier, the Tiger armored vehicle, the Z-STS Akhmat armored vehicle on a Kamaz chassis, and the Soviet MS-1 tank from 1927.

 

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Russian troops have begun to receive the first samples of the modernized kamikaze drone Privet-82M1. The drone was developed by the start-up design bureau “Oko”; drones from this manufacturer have previously been reported. The upgraded drone can now be controlled from cover, has a simplified OSD menu and reduced the number of parameters shown on the screen. The Privet-82M1 drone received new wings and the ability to carry a warhead weighing up to 5.5 kg; the drone can use an 82-mm mortar mine. The Privet-82M1 aircraft-type kamikaze drone has a flight range of up to 30 km, with a maximum speed of up to 140 km/h.

 

Gloire_bb

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These TB-2 type drones need runway. Smaller drones with stealthy shaping work much better.
They're completely parallel existences, though.
TB2 is one of the smallest MALEs, drones with significant range/carrying capabilities.
Zala from your picture (electric flying wing),while undoubtedly stealthy, can only carry a couple of kilos of payload (typically optics) for just a few hours.
 

pmc

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They're completely parallel existences, though.
TB2 is one of the smallest MALEs, drones with significant range/carrying capabilities.
Zala from your picture (electric flying wing),while undoubtedly stealthy, can only carry a couple of kilos of payload (typically optics) for just a few hours.
i am sure TB2 drone is more capable but it does not change what i wrote that it can easily reveal its location and not fast at all
I am sure there is audience that want to know about TB2 that every few weeks something about TB2 need to be published.

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Publication date: 01/06/2024 | 00:39 GMT

Former member of the Ukrainian Parliament, Igor Lapin, stated that all Ukrainian expectations related to the Turkish Bayraktar
drones turned out to be a complete failure on the battlefield Lapin believes that all Ukrainian expenditures related to these drones should urgently stop, Earlier, Russian army sources confirmed that the Turkish Bayraktar drones are an easy target to shoot down with Pantsir missiles, and the air defense system can follow them from the moment of take-off until landing, according to Russian television
 

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I am fairly sure we will also see improvements to the gun based systems to better handle drones eventually. Right now they have improved the sensors (both radar and IR) so they can better target drones. This will also help with the gun systems getting an actual track. You can't hit what you can't detect and see in the first place. While the previously available sensor systems worked just fine against MALE drones or larger they sometimes failed to detect slow moving small drones with electric motors. This likely also required making significant changes to the software to handle the new threat. Let's say you use an algorithm to reduce clutter where you cut off objects traveling at less than 200 kph. So you won't waste time with birds and the like on your radar screen. Which algorithms will you use against small cheap consumer drones with electric motors? Made of plastic or carbon fiber with no visible IR sources. Moving at really slow speed.

You probably want an EM/RF sensor coupled with an optical/IR sensor for small drones. Slap a couple on the Pantsir and it'll be swatting those drones out by the hundreds.

Perhaps also slap a smaller-caliber cannon as well? Might as well make a new system now that I'm listing all of this stuff out.
 

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Right. Like I said before the Russians are adding smaller missiles to their short range systems to hit drones.

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Look at the upper left container of that Pantsir-SM system. Those are the new small missiles. The extra reach of the new large missiles also helps since more modern latest combat drones like ones the Turks will soon put into service i.e. the TB-3 will be able to launch air to surface missiles which can outrange the older SAM missiles in the Pantsir. So the new long range missiles allow the Russians to engage those kinds of drones without using more expensive systems like the Buk-M3.
There's also the new Kemankes loitering munition to consider. It'll become available real soon and even the Tb-2 will be able to launch two of these:
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Unmanned aerial vehicle manufacturer Baykar exhibited the mini smart cruise missile BAYRAKTAR KEMANKES for the first time as part of the festival.

Baykar Platform Engineering Team Leader Burak Özbek told Anadolu Agency (AA) that BAYRAKTAR KEMANKEŞ was developed to increase its offensive capability against strategic targets with Bayraktar TB2. Özbek stated that the missile can be integrated with Bayraktar TB2 as well as all other unmanned aerial vehicles they have developed.

Informing that the missile got its name from the archers who hit their targets in the most challenging conditions, Özbek said, "We named it KEMANKEŞ because we will achieve the same hit with our mini cruise missile." said.

Referring to the advantages that BAYRAKTAR KEMANKES will provide on the battlefield, Özbek said:

"With the laser-guided munitions we currently use, you need to approach the target and see the target. This puts you in the risk zone. Since we provide air-to-air communication with the TB2 or main platform aircraft in particular, KEMANKEŞ has achieved the ability to attack enemy elements from a much longer distance, even without entering the risky area. "It is able to attack the target by processing images with its own gimbal system and artificial intelligence. It can also operate in electronic warfare environments with its own anti-interference GNSS systems. In this sense, I think the TB2 will increase its capabilities a lot."

Noting that they are at the stage of flight tests for the cruise missile, which they started to work on last year, Özbek noted that the flight tests continue and they aim to start mass production this year. Özbek explained that they plan to make the first shot within 1-2 months after TEKNOFEST, and then they will carry out motorized flight tests.

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Burak Özbek gave the following answer to the question about the technical features of BAYRAKTAR KEMANKES:

"The total weight of KEMANKES is 35 kilograms. We have warheads weighing 6 kilograms. So when we think about it, it actually has a warhead weight similar to the ammunition carried by TB2. Therefore, the destructive effect will be similar to them. In addition, because it has a jet engine on it, it is a mini-gun. We can think of it like a cruise missile. The communication range I mentioned is 50 kilometers now, it will reach 100 kilometers in the future, but when we consider its own flight range, it can go up to 250 kilometers. It can stay in the air for about an hour. It can display all altitude, flight speed, temperature or target information, as well as the camera image. It transfers all of it to TB2 and descends to the ground control station of TB2. When we think about it, you already go a certain distance with TB2, in addition, when you go with KEMANKEŞ, we are talking about a very serious range of up to 400 kilometers."

- Bayraktar TB2's abilities will increase even more

Drawing attention to the abilities that Bayraktar TB2 will gain with KEMANKES, Özbek said:

"Since there is communication, we will be able to take images from a very long distance. You can think of it like another unmanned aerial vehicle directed by TB2 from a very long distance. We mentioned that it is laser guided for ammunition. For laser guidance, you need to see the target. Now you will be able to attack a target without even seeing it from TB2. It will make the TB2 much more usable against very strategic targets behind enemy lines.

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Kemankes loitering munition

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Also TAF jammed the Pantsirs/Buks during Operation Spring Shield in 2020 to open a safe corridor for TB-2 and Anka-S drones. Subsequently said systems were destroyed with MAM-Ls and PGMs...
 

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There's also the new Kemankes loitering munition to consider. It'll become available real soon and even the Tb-2 will be able to launch two of these:



Also TAF jammed the Pantsirs/Buks during Operation Spring Shield in 2020 to open a safe corridor for TB-2 and Anka-S drones. Subsequently said systems were destroyed with MAM-Ls and PGMs...
Russia withdraw support from Armenia. It is in Russia interest that Arab supported Azerbaijan has slight edge over Iran/India supported Armenia.
Russia relations with Arabs and India are very different than with any one else. India knows what to say and when to say.

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UAE’s trade with Azerbaijan increases 3-fold in 5 years, up 270%: Thani Al Zeyoudi​



if you read the arabic link acceptable level wording is used. this is code word for basically some hired person that got short training.
“There is no difficulty (in shooting down “Bayraktar.” "), even if the training level of the Pantsir crew is at an acceptable level
 

CasualObserver

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Russia withdraw support from Armenia. It is in Russia interest that Arab supported Azerbaijan has slight edge over Iran/India supported Armenia.
Russia relations with Arabs and India are very different than with any one else. India knows what to say and when to say.
What does this have to do with the conflict in Idlib? Have you even read what I wrote?
There's also the new Kemankes loitering munition to consider. It'll become available real soon and even the Tb-2 will be able to launch two of these:



Also TAF jammed the Pantsirs/Buks during Operation Spring Shield in 2020 to open a safe corridor for TB-2 and Anka-S drones. Subsequently said systems were destroyed with MAM-Ls and PGMs...
 

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What does this have to do with the conflict in Idlib? Have you even read what I wrote?
why will Idlib different than any other conflict where Arabs have fundamental interests?. perhaps Arabs want to give Erdogan easy victory so he is more effective inside Turkey for there purpose or keep him engaged in Syria to counter balance others like Iran or US. you never know what Arab Royals think. This Russian deputy FM saying that on every visit they meet Hamas in Doha. what has Russia anything to do with Hamas except they are the guest of Royal family. dont you think they not coordinate things regarding Turkey where Qatar has real investments start with that Royal B747-8. you cannot assume anything from these conflicts especially in Mideast.
This Ukraine conflict is different. when they say TB2 is not effective in Arabic consistently than it means what they say.

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He pointed out that he did not rule out meeting with representatives of the Hamas movement during this trip.
Bogdanov said: "I do not rule it out. We usually met with the Hamas leadership on every visit there. If they had the desire, we always maintained contact
 
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