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While most of the Russian mechanical engineering industry seeks to find a replacement for Western suppliers in China, and many do, some industries are already sounding the alarm and want to limit or ban supplies from China. For example, in the railway engineering industry, the entire certification system is set up to protect the Russian market, says one of Kommersant’s interlocutors: you cannot simply buy a unit of rolling stock in China and import it into the Russian Federation.

This situation should be maintained, Kommersant’s source is sure, otherwise the situation of the mid-2010s will be repeated, when the market was flooded with Chinese parts of dubious quality, and Russian factories were operating at half capacity. Now there is a shortage of wagons, their cost has risen sharply. “However, under no circumstances should we give in, otherwise our factories will take a begging position in order to overcome the momentary shortage,” says Kommersant’s interlocutor. “We will write off several thousand cars from the future production of Russian enterprises. The SMO will end, people will need to be occupied with civilian products, and that day is not far off.”

The situation would be different if China were not so developed in terms of railway production, but the industry of both countries is at its best, says another Kommersant interlocutor. Thus, one of the problematic parts—cassette bearings, the availability of which dropped sharply in 2022 due to the departure of all three main foreign partners from the Russian market—had been largely resolved by the fall of this year. By September, our own production covered 82% of the Russian Federation's needs, although bearings continue to be imported en masse from China. The EEC, while maintaining duties on Chinese supplies, noted that Russian manufacturers have localized everything except rollers and lubricants, which they plan to do by the summer of 2024.

"According to one of Kommersant’s interlocutors, cooperation with China in the field of purchasing components, which are also produced there under a foreign license, can bring unpleasant surprises."

He talks about an attempt to purchase in China critically needed components for railway engineering, which both here and in China were produced by joint ventures with the participation of the same manufacturer from an unfriendly country. The approved parts for the Russian and Chinese markets are different, so it was not possible to purchase the Chinese version. And the foreign partner stopped the attempts of the Chinese joint venture to manufacture a part according to Russian drawings. However, another Kommersant interlocutor says that such situations are almost always surmountable, since most licensed production facilities in China have an enterprise “across the fence” that “offers a similar product, but with a different name.”

Over the past two years, China has become a market for Russian exporters and importers that has allowed them to survive. However, as companies begin to think about the transition to more sustainable development, few of them want to increase the scale of these connections. For most exporters, they are the least marginal, and the continuation of a sharp increase in imports is increasingly in conflict with the position of the industry lobby and Russian industrial policy. The solution could be a higher degree of integration and the creation of joint ventures with Chinese companies. But, although Russian officials talk about the correctness of this path, Chinese business in practice has not yet sought to follow it.
 
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12/28/2023



The most striking illustration of this approach is the delay in negotiations on the Power of Siberia-2 gas pipeline, which will pass through Mongolia. At first, hopes that the contract would be signed were pinned on Xi Jinping’s visit to Moscow in March, then on Vladimir Putin’s return visit to Beijing in October, and then on Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin’s visit to China on December 18. Following the results, Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak once again said that during the negotiations the parties “emphasized the importance of reaching agreements as quickly as possible.”

The main obstacle to concluding a contract is China’s desire to reduce the cost of gas as much as possible.
Peak demand inside Russia can be translated into 730 bcm per year. This is the system peak capacity. some is related to extreme cold but you get idea how far demand can go up with industrialization and higher population. They are building 110m sqm per year of new housing and Russia may well be the second largest builder of Single family homes. When people reside in larger individual homes with bigger families they are going to consume more. Than there are other states that are integrated into this energy System. they cannot say its Russian gas to Europe. If Arabs insist. They will may well gasified Afghanistan on much larger scale. The point i am making is 50bcm per year does not look big once you look at over 4 or 5 year period with associated construction costs and transit fees to Mongolia.

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Gas consumption in the Russian Federation in the Unified Gas Supply System has set a new record​


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Gazprom doubles gas supplies to Uzbekistan at the request of Tashkent​

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KazTransOil to boost transit of Russian oil to Uzbekistan to 550,000 tons in 2024​


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Russian oil integrated into Azerbaijani exports​

24 January 2024

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Afghanistan doubles Russian fuel imports, industry data shows​


The main difficulty here is the need to re-pass all the tests of the finished car. Imports of cars from China have grown significantly, since Chinese automakers, due to the huge capacity of the domestic market, can offer attractive prices relative to their poorly scalable Russian counterparts. The situation is similar in developments: Russian players, due to the small scale of the market, cannot afford to invest in the creation of new platforms, but now they use Chinese ones instead of Western donor models.
how exactly it is small market with so much used and new imports and all the rest of CIS countries vehicles cross the roads. it is like 6 to 7m vehicles per year market. They want higher than 1.3m production in next 3 to 4 years. and It is not poor scalable models. Some Lada Cross sedan or station wagon have over 200mm ground clearance. than than there are SUVs like Lada Niva/UAZ with locking differentials/Extreme approach/departure angles for $15K. Try to find vehicles in those prices whose suspension can deal with that road environment on smaller rim. i am not even going into repair and maintenance advantage of simplified vehicles even some of the large touch screens have condensation. It is market of 5m to 6m vehicles so for few more years there is opportunities but only those brands will succeed who can retain value post warranty.
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Moscow. December 6. INTERFAX.RU - Car production in Russia needs to be increased to the level of 1.3 million units per year and higher in the next 3-4 years, Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin said during a speech at the lecture hall of the Knowledge Society.


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UAZ cars were the first to drive from Moscow to Kazan along the new M-12 “Vostok” highway​

Both models have long enjoyed a well-deserved reputation as cars for active travelers. All-wheel drive, a low-range transmission, high ground clearance and an optional rear axle differential lock significantly expand the geography of the owners' travel.

At the same time, the approaches of the Chinese auto business, especially teams that have not previously worked for export, differ from Western ones. Sometimes this helps: finished cars were sold to Russian importers directly from factories in China, which greatly facilitated parallel imports and lowered prices. But the requirements for the quality of components and especially for after-sales service of cars are still very different from what Russian automakers and distributors are used to.

"In some sectors, Chinese industrial goods have absolutely no alternative."

This happened in the market for piston engine power plants: after the departure of Western suppliers, the industry was forced to switch to Chinese brands that were previously of no interest to anyone. The Chinese immediately took advantage of the situation and raised prices to the level of European brands, although in terms of technical indicators they do not reach them. But gradually competition began to develop between Chinese players, which strengthened the position of Russian buyers.

The Russian Federation hoped for help from the PRC in the sector of high-power gas turbines, which are urgently needed by power engineers. But practice has shown that the Chinese do not have proven engines that could replace Western brands. The only development AGT-110 from AECC Gas Turbine, being considered for thermal power plants in Yakutia, has not yet been in commercial operation.

Negotiations on attracting Chinese suppliers to wind generation projects are going on with difficulty - Forward Energo (owned by the Finnish Fortum, managed by the Federal Property Management Agency), Rosatom and Power Machines have been conducting them for two years now.

It turned out that the Chinese are ready to talk for a long time and find out the details, but very quickly refuse cooperation due to the slightest risks. Chinese companies are considered one of the leaders in the field of renewable energy sources, but the current volume of the Russian market of 2 GW is tiny for them.
Russia has developed Solar tech and Rosatom also involved in Wind Turbines.
There many wind turbines in Crimea from Ukraine time but in 2019 they mentioned they spend more on there maintenance than what they earns from it. The point is electricity is much cheaper than Europe so any thing that make it unreliable or expensive will not work because they will simply not allocate human capital for it. you only allocate people where is higher potential of earning or some dual purpose.

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How the fate of outdated alternative energy facilities was decided in Crimea​

How the fate of outdated alternative energy facilities is being decided in Crimea

In Crimea, they can’t decide what to do with wind power plants (WPPs), which have been operating for almost 20 years. The company that manages them spends more on maintaining the towers than it earns.
While Crimea was experiencing a shortage of electricity, the existence of unprofitable enterprises in the industry was tolerated. But now, with the commissioning of the Balaklava and Tavricheskaya thermal power plants, maintaining unprofitable wind power plants has become an unaffordable luxury.
 

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IMF says global 'soft landing' in sight, lifts 2024 growth outlook​


JOHANNESBURG/WASHINGTON, Jan 30 (Reuters) - The International Monetary Fund on Tuesday edged its forecast for global economic growth higher, upgrading the outlook for both the United States and China - the world's two largest economies - and citing faster-than-expected easing of inflation.

The IMF's chief economist, Pierre-Olivier Gourinchas, said the global lender's updated World Economic Outlook showed that a "soft landing" was in sight, but overall growth and global trade still remained lower than the historical average.

"The global economy continues to display remarkable resilience, with inflation declining steadily and growth holding up. The chance of a 'soft landing' has increased," Gourinchas told reporters in Johannesburg, adding, "We are very far from a global recession scenario."

But he cautioned that the base of expansion was slow and risks remained, including geopolitical tensions in the Middle East and attacks in the Red Sea that could disrupt commodity prices and supply chains.

Delays in announced fiscal consolidation in what Gourinchas called "the biggest global election year in history" could boost economic activity but might also spur inflation, he added.

The IMF said the improved outlook was supported by stronger private and public spending despite tight monetary conditions, as well as increased labor force participation, mended supply chains and cheaper energy and commodity prices.

The IMF forecast global growth of 3.1% in 2024, up two-tenths of a percentage point from its October forecast, and said it expected unchanged growth of 3.2% in 2025. The historical average for the 2000-2019 period was 3.8%.
Global trade was expected to expand by 3.3% in 2024 and 3.6% in 2025, well below the historical average of 4.9%, with gains weighed down by thousands of fresh trade restrictions.

The IMF stuck with its October forecast for headline inflation of 5.8% for 2024, but lowered the 2025 forecast to 4.4% from 4.6% in October. Excluding Argentina, which has seen inflation spike, global headline inflation would be lower, Gourinchas said.

Advanced economies should see average inflation of 2.6%, down four-tenths of a percentage point from the October forecast, with inflation set to reach central bank targets of 2% in 2025. By contrast, inflation would average 8.1% in emerging market and developing economies in 2024, before easing to 6% in 2025.

The IMF said average oil prices would drop 2.3% in 2024, versus the 0.7% decline it had predicted in October, and said prices were expected to drop 4.8% in 2025.

RED SEA ATTACKS​

"Staying on the path to a soft landing will not be easy," Gourinchas said, noting that new commodity price spikes from geopolitical shocks, including continued attacks on shipping in the Red Sea, could prolong tight monetary conditions.

Gourinchas told reporters the IMF was watching developments in the Middle East closely, but the broader economic impact appeared "relatively limited" as of now.

"It doesn't seem to represent, as of now, a major source of potentially reigniting supply-side inflation," he said.

The United States got one of the biggest upgrades in the January update of the IMF outlook, with its GDP now forecast to expand by 2.1% in 2024 versus the 1.5% forecast in October. Growth was expected to ease to 1.7% in 2025.

Gourinchas credited fiscal support and consumer spending for the upgrade, but said the IMF had warned Washington that some of its subsidies from domestic producers and other industrial policies could violate global trade rules.

The euro area got a downgrade, and was now expected to grow just 0.9% in 2024 and 1.7% in 2025, with the biggest European economy - Germany - expected to see minimal GDP growth of 0.5% in 2024 instead of the 0.9% forecast in October.

China's GDP was expected to grow by 4.6% in 2024, an upward revision of four-tenths of a percentage point from October, and 4.1% in 2025. Gourinchas said the boost reflected significant fiscal support from the authorities, and a less-severe-than-expected slowdown stemming from the property sector.

The U.S. Federal Reserve, European Central Bank and Bank of England were expected to start lowering interest rates gradually in the second half of 2024, Gourinchas said, adding, "We are not quite there yet."

The Bank of Japan was expected to maintain low interest rates, and that was "appropriate," but the IMF had told it to be ready to raise rates if inflation spiked, he said.

Gourinchas added that markets had been "excessively optimistic" on the prospects for early interest rate cuts by major central banks, and a repricing could increase long-term interest rates and trigger more rapid fiscal consolidation that would weigh on growth prospects.

Emerging market and developing economies were expected to grow by 4.1% in 2024, with emerging and developing Europe getting an upgrade due to stronger-than-expected growth in Russia on the back of military spending for the war in Ukraine.

Russia's GDP was expected to grow 2.6% in 2024, 1.5 percentage points more than expected in October, with growth seen easing to 1.1% in 2025. The IMF said there could be further revisions since the numbers were preliminary and there were questions about the extent of Russia's fiscal stimulus.

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depressed the forecast for the Latin America and Caribbean region, with growth seen dropping to 1.9% in 2024, four-tenths of a percentage point lower than in October. Growth should edge higher to 2.5% in 2025, the IMF said.

Gourinchas said the global outlook reflected more balanced upside and downside risks, with the risk of a wider conflict in the Middle East offset by the prospect that lower fuel prices could help inflation fall faster than expected.

"We see them as broadly balanced at this point," he said, noting that a lot of the downside risks - especially with respect to disinflation - seen a year ago had not materialized.
 

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Russia manufacturing PMI at 52.4. January has holidays and it was considered Coldest January on much wider area.
Roads around Kazan practically blocked.
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new salaries of Cosmonauts are between $3300 to $5500 a month. I presume Aerospace will not be that behind. they have to compete with IT field.
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Roscosmos announced new salaries for cosmonauts​

After the increase, the monthly salary of Russian cosmonaut candidates will average about 300,000 rubles, and experienced cosmonauts - more than 500,000 rubles. Maxim Ovchinnikov, Deputy General Director of Roscosmos for Economics and Finance,
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this to TASS .


The three large resorts cities pre booking are 50% up from last year. Always wonder who are actually fighting in Ukraine and the disposable income.
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It was so bad that we are going again: Sochi and Anapa lead in bookings for the summer​

Tours this year are sold out 1.5 times more actively than in 2023

Mini tractor on TV they are encouraging people to grow more food and give importance to manufacturing.

An entrepreneur from Novocheboksarsk has created a universal model of a mini tractor​

 

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That FT article is superficial. The Russian government has published numbers on which sectors grew, and which sectors shrank, but they do not even mention that.

As for the talk about how Siluanov saved the Russian economy, or whatever, because of people like him insisting on having a huge surplus stored in accounts in the West, Russia lost $300 billion USD in reserves. Which could have been spent on improving the Russian economy.
This is basically a decade of savings which was wiped out. Thankfully now the Russian government can use this opportunity to confiscate Western assets or renege on debts. Which should surpass that value. The foreign reserves unfortunately were a necessary evil back then to continue doing business with the West.
 
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Putin said Russia investing most of its money on revival of Microelectronics.
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What you are doing is extremely important. And, of course, we need to help you. Denis Valentinovich Manturov is here, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Industry. We are now investing most of our money in the revival of microelectronics. Not just radio electronics, but microelectronics,” - Put“But the pace of our movement is quite good. And I won’t go into details now, because some things are very sensitive. It’s better not to talk about them out loud for now,in said.

He added that there are relevant research institutions in this area that work effectively and achieve good results. The President complained that the radio-electronic base is an area where there is work to be done. “This is our Achilles heel, one of them. But we are moving in the right direction. The horizon, so to speak, is not constantly moving away,” Putin noted, although he acknowledged that competitors are also moving forward. ” he concluded

Russia is in top 3 in digital technologies and further increase in world class campuses from 17 to 25. The question arise are they expecting large increase in students based on some demographic data.
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In addition, he added that to improve the quality of training of IT specialists in Russia, a network of world-class campuses is being actively built, of which there are currently 17 in the country.

“Now there are 17 of them. <...> They will have comfortable conditions and ample opportunities for obtaining a profession and conducting research. At such sites it is possible to train technology teams from the countries of the Eurasian Economic Union,” Mishustin emphasized. In total, on behalf of Russian President
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there should be 25 such campuses by 2030, the head of the Russian Cabinet indicated.
During his speech, Mishustin also noted that Russia is currently one of the three world leaders with serious competencies in digital technologies. According to him, the country is ready to transfer specific technological and platform solutions to its partners, while each country will maintain data sovereignty.

This is like 6 or 7th EV project that Russia is creating with over 90% domestic components.
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Avtotor will begin production of its own electric cars in 2025​

“Work on creating our own electric car is on schedule. It is created on the basis of a technology-independent platform and assumes high (more than 90%) localization. Most of the components, including critical ones, will be produced at new plants that Avtotor is creating,” he said.

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The joint winter school of Moscow Aviation Institute and St. Petersburg Polytechnic University for Chinese students has ended
February 2, 2024,
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– On February 2, the closing of the winter school for students from the Northwestern Polytechnic University (
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), which was organized by the Moscow Aviation Institute and Peter the Great St. Petersburg Polytechnic University, took place. Students began training on polymer composite materials and additive technologies on January 24 at
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, and from January 29 the course continued at the Polytechnic University.
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reports this .

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noted earlier , the winter school program included areas that will determine the competitiveness of the Russian and Chinese aviation industries in the world market. In particular, during the course, students learned about production methods and characteristics of powder materials and reviewed various additive manufacturing technologies.

Students from China also enjoyed a rich cultural program. They visited Red Square, the Cosmonautics and Aviation Center in the capital, the Hermitage and the Erarta Museum of Contemporary Art in St. Petersburg.

MAI plans to further develop cooperation with SZPU and open a joint institute. Students will study in four undergraduate programs in Aeronautics, Missiles and Astronautics, Systems Analysis and Control, and Engineering Systems Management, and upon completion will receive degrees from both universities.
Kazan Federal University has 2000 Chinese students.
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KFU certificates were presented to employees of the Guangzhou Institute of Science and Technology


First passenger flight of Tu-214 after refurbishment. I have read these planes have normal cruising speed of 900km/hr with 3.5 tons/hr of fuel and 194 passengers. i would think they should have started with Cargo flight just like IL-96
 

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Putin said Russia investing most of its money on revival of Microelectronics.
I think Putin is hyperventilating. While massive investments are being done compared with the past the amounts spent are still tiny.

Just recently Russia opened that solar cell manufacturing plant in Kaliningrad which has its own wafer production. They make their own polysilicon, ingots, and wafers. I assume that the issue with having to import 200mm wafers for chip manufacture either has been solved already or will be solved soon as well. Russia is also building a pilot 300mm wafer, 28 nm plant, in Zelenograd near Moscow.

Finally work is being done by Russia to make their own chip making tools. And some successes already exist. Work on GaN radar also seems to have gone dark, but last I heard Russia had built a GaN chip foundry.

MAI rector is former Sukhoi head.
Mikhail Pogosyan. He is kind of controversial in Russia. Some people think he used political clout to outmaneuver MiG (Project 1.44) and Tupolev (Tu-330). That he got the Russian government to pick the then vaporware Sukhoi Su-57 and Superjet instead.
But part of the reason why he got the money was that Sukhoi could at least partially self fund its own projects back then. And for all their warts the Su-57 and Superjet did both enter serial production and can be considered reasonably successful aircraft.
 

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I think Putin is hyperventilating. While massive investments are being done compared with the past the amounts spent are still tiny.
Just because they are not published does not mean they are tiny. Putin ordered Supercomputing enhancements and privately they estimate this alone upto $6.5b project. I only post stuff that is either interesting or some reasonable connection to reality.

Just recently Russia opened that solar cell manufacturing plant in Kaliningrad which has its own wafer production. They make their own polysilicon, ingots, and wafers. I assume that the issue with having to import 200mm wafers for chip manufacture either has been solved already or will be solved soon as well. Russia is also building a pilot 300mm wafer, 28 nm plant, in Zelenograd near Moscow.
Rosatom will do the fundamental research in Semiconductors. The point i am making is Russia has scaled up this difficult industry.
This like building 10 Nuclear reactors per year. projects can have multiple plants.
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Rosatom's ten-year order portfolio is about $200 billion​

At the same time, according to his speech, we are talking about only 33 high-power projects in 11 countries; Rosatom does not yet take into account orders for small stations in its “portfolio”. “We are not including low power here yet, although there are serious advances in this regard,” Likhachev

Mikhail Pogosyan. He is kind of controversial in Russia. Some people think he used political clout to outmaneuver MiG (Project 1.44) and Tupolev (Tu-330). That he got the Russian government to pick the then vaporware Sukhoi Su-57 and Superjet instead.
But part of the reason why he got the money was that Sukhoi could at least partially self fund its own projects back then. And for all their warts the Su-57 and Superjet did both enter serial production and can be considered reasonably successful aircraft.
Pogosyan is visionary thats why after retirement he has a job of Rector. SuperJet is basically future proof as long it gets updates. it can already deal with Mideast heat. Rostec CEO said Su-57 is best 5G fighter and when it comes to Aviation Russia has certain credibility.
that is very easy to figure out. (I am not going to Arabic media). When MIG-31K takes off even 500mile away from Ukraine. the whole Ukraine alarm starts. they themselves admit they have 3 to 4 minute maximum. this like rocket speed of Mach 20 when you consider width of Ukraine. Putin name is associated with Hypersonic as he often brings it up. he will lose credibility if it not outperform.
There is no clear data. just stating more than 2000km range of Kinzal.
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Second example is this Su-25SM3. the most important plane of Southern Military district. If the pilot says they are doing 5 to 10 sorties per day than you have to believe both the training/fitness of people and engineering quality of the plane. and this the plane that is in Syria and Iraq and those surrounding countries have very advanced radar system. they can see its performance.
This is not tinpot dictators Airforce that can do only limited one night stand. i have seen complex formation pics in Arabic media.
it will have to prove itself 24/7 every day for years against most advanced sensors by changing its bases and flight profile.
 
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