Rome vs Han China

T-U-P · Aug 30, 2005

FriedRiceNSpice said:
Wouldn't that mean the crossbowmen would be firing into their own heavy infantry?

no, silly Fried

the heavy infantries would be crouched down while holding their shields (so are the archers that are reloading). the ones that are shooting are standing up so they won't shoot the infantries.

come on, they're common scene in movies

Obcession · Aug 30, 2005

"But then in the end, you lose the city. :/"

Hey, which one is more important, losing your key and most important and most clever strategist and general of your country, or losing a city? In those days cities were constantly taken and lost, so it's no biggie.

swimmerXC · Aug 30, 2005

IDonT said:
Rome do have very formidable discipline and tactics. But they do not have monopoly of it.

In han China, crossbowmen are arrange in 3 ranks to alternate fire (front rank - fires; rear rank reloads; middle rank -advance). Doing so ensures a consistant barrage. These crossbowmen are protected by a shield wall of heavy infantry from melee attacks.

watch "Hero" when those crossbow mens assult that sword trainning place

FriedRiceNSpice · Aug 30, 2005

T-U-P said:
no, silly Fried the heavy infantries would be crouched down while holding their shields (so are the archers that are reloading). the ones that are shooting are standing up so they won't shoot the infantries.

come on, they're common scene in movies

Aha! Thank you, Punisher, I am enligthened!

Obcession · Aug 31, 2005

Don't they use a line of pikemen infront of musketeers in the 15th 16th (or whatever) centuries to protect the musketeers from cavalry charges? That is, until the bayonet was invented.

FriedRiceNSpice · Aug 31, 2005

Obcession said:
Don't they use a line of pikemen infront of musketeers in the 15th 16th (or whatever) centuries to protect the musketeers from cavalry charges? That is, until the bayonet was invented.

That was used in Europe. The Dutch also developed a tactic using a combination of a sort of mobile phalanx like formation for their pikeman with companies of musketeers. The musketeers would fire at the enemy from a range, while the formations of pikeman would close in on the enemy once the enemy gets within close range.

coolstorm · Sep 2, 2005

FriedRiceNSpice said:
The Hans didn't have gunpoweder weapons yet. Gunpowder wasn't invented until the Song dynasty. Also, only Chinese officers and commanders wore iron breastplates. The Roman army actually had 500,000 at its height, although during the 3 Kingdoms period China has raised armies of over a million multiple times.

Gunpowder was invented during the eastern Han dynasty. But, it was only used as fireworks. The first time it was used in battles was during the Song dynasty.

sino52C · Sep 2, 2005

I think Rome may have superior training and discipline for its troops. It also has contacted many other parts of the world. China, on the other hand, has fewer contact with other nations.

T-U-P · Sep 2, 2005

the rome and the hans all shall one enemy: the Huns. from what i've learned, the huns almost destoried the rome while the hans have managed to keep them out of its boarder.

Obcession · Sep 2, 2005

That's what I was thinking. Many historians think what we Chinese call the Xiong Nu barbarians are Huns. China eventually driven them further West.

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