ROCN thread

[isthvan]

Does anybody have some information about SAM installed on Kang Ding class frigate? If I remember correctly they have/had Sea Chaparral installed but I remember some article from late 1990 that they plan to install Mk41 VLS for ESSM…
Did they realize that deal or they still have Sea Chaparral?

 

[Finn McCool]

It says on global security that they are armed with 1x8 Crotale SAM. So there you go.

 

[Gollevainen]

If you are talking about Lafayettes, then there is still seachapparals fitted...Dont always believe all that Globaldefence try to feed you.

 

[isthvan]

If you are talking about Lafayettes, then there is still seachapparals fitted...Dont always believe all that Globaldefence try to feed you.

Thanks Golly! I had been reading about crotale ng since first ship was delivered and then find pictures whit sea chaparral… They joust assumed that they would use crotale because it’s French…
So they still use Chaparrals… They need to replace that s… fast as possible… I hope that Mk-41 VLS is still a option… ESSM would be ideal missile for those frigates.

 

[Gollevainen]

To my knowlidge, chapparals were orginally only intermin solution in waiting of some better deal.

The desing surely allows some growth.

 

[adeptitus]

Taiwan's La Fayette Frigate use RIM-72C/RIM-92C Sea Chaparral system for air defense.

The Ford MIM-72 Chaparral land-based air defense system used AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles and was in service until 1998, when it was replaced by the Avenger air defense system with FIM-92 Stingers.

The Naval version of the Chaparral (Sea Chaparral) was never used by the US Navy, but was exported to Taiwan. I think Taiwan is prolly one the last users for the Sea Chaparral system.

I've never seen an La Fayette equipped with Mk 41 VLS system, but the newest model can use A43 SYLVER VLS launchers for Aster-15 missiles. Note that there are 2 basic SYLVER variants, the A43 can hold missiles up to 4.3 meters in length, and the A70 can hold missiles up to 7 meters in length. There's also the enlarged A50 for land-attack cruise missiles.

I'm not sure what the length requirement for the Mk 41 VLS system is, but the La Fayette frigate might not have the space for it. This is speculation on my part and should not be considered a fact.

 

[Deleted member 675]

To my knowlidge, chapparals were orginally only intermin solution in waiting of some better deal.

Yes, but up until now they haven't been able to replace it with anything else. Only the US will sell Taiwan arms now, or at least they're the only people that will actually sell them anything high-tech. As to whether Taiwan has asked them for something to replace it, I don't know. No upgrades have been announced so far, just rumours from a year or two ago.

 

[sino52C]

Probably the only missiles that the US will be willing to place aboard the Kang Dings will be the Sea Sparrow or ESSM placed on an octuple launcher, similiar to those placed on Nimtz aircraft carriers.

I just don't see the point of refurbishing Kang Dings with VLS.

 

[isthvan]

Probably the only missiles that the US will be willing to place aboard the Kang Dings will be the Sea Sparrow or ESSM placed on an octuple launcher, similiar to those placed on Nimtz aircraft carriers.

I just don't see the point of refurbishing Kang Dings with VLS.

You really don’t see the point? Having 32 ESSM ready for launch rather then few obsolete weary low ranges Sidewinder derivates?
Kang Dings are among most modern ships today so I don’t see the point of leaving them without VLS; currently they could not defend themselves even from low level dumb bombing run(SAMs, CIWS is quite capable )…

 

[Deleted member 675]

If you are talking about Lafayettes, then there is still seachapparals fitted...Dont always believe all that Globaldefence try to feed you.

Actually Global Defence does say that the Kang Dings are equipped with Sea Chaparrels in the main description - it's just that the specification page is incorrect. That's the one down-side with Global Defence. There's a lot of info on many topics, but they don't update all the pages that often.

On a side-note, does anyone know of a website that updates its information on navies (or armed forces more generally) more often than GD? Haze Gray is even worse!