Renminbi (RMB)/Yuan Appreciation & Internationalization

Topazchen

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What made USD a global currency was the expansion of its use outside the USA starting with the 1920s. US banks were restricted from operating in other US states other than their home state back then so New York banks started expanding into South America and Europe. Mind you, the US was the biggest economy at this point for a decade. Especially after WW2 this process became faster. The rebuilding of Europe generated demand for credits which only USD was stable and deep enough to absorb. USD accounts and debt markets appeared throughout Europe. Ironically, the USSR jumpstarted this process. It decided to store its reserves in the UK in the form of USD (because they didn't trust the USA to not confiscate it), which led to large USD markets and availability in Europe almost immediately.

Since then world financial system was built upon the USD. Petrodollar is just a consequence of it, not the reason. Yuan replacing USD in sanctioned Russia does establish it as an alternative for international trade. Yuan's current expansion of use mirrors the initial USD expansion of the 1920s.
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sunnymaxi

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Yuan and Dollar.

Now, for the first time, foreign investors can buy/sell Chinese stocks in yuan. Previously, only dollar was used in Hong Kong. This dual system allows internationalization of both yuan as well as China’s economy.

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The 24 listed companies have a combined capitalisation of US$1.5 trillion, or 35 per cent of the Hong Kong stock market

The yuan-share counter model is expected to boost turnover by attracting overseas investors and contribute to the Chinese currency’s internationalisation
 

Totoro

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There are some figures thrown around for cips in the media. Allegedly 14 trillion $ worth of transactions annually.
Swift does 150 trillion annualy.
If rmb is 2.5% of swift that is 3.75 trillion worth of transactions.

No way to know how much rmb transactions within cips. But if it is 50%, then thats another 7 trillion.

For a total of almost 11 trillion between cips and swift. Out of 164 trillion in total cips amd swift transactions. Representing some 7% of total tranasctions.

In comparison, USD represents 40% of swift payments. Or 60 trillion. Assuming (i dont know) only 25% of cips payments, thats another 3.5 trillion. Or in total 39% of all tranasctions via cips and swift .

But another issue is that better equivalent to cips is not swift. But chips. And chips does 650 trillion of transactions annually. 95% of chips payments are in Dollars. However, both domestic (within US) and international payments are included. i can't find the percentages for that involved.
 

tphuang

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I like the creativity of Argentinian govt here but I think their currency swap line with PBOC is going to run dry pretty soon at this rate

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Also de-dollarization happening more toward EUR for now. I mean at the present time, the low PBOC interest rate vs the fed rate is causing quite the plunge in RMB. There is probably still concerns over currency stability and convertibility when it comes to RMB assets
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Overbom

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Argentina is basically rearranging musical chairs on the Titanic. It can turn and toss all it wants but it can't escape economic reality

Structural reforms are needed
 
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