Ender Wiggin
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how many fight jets does it have? I don't know which thread has the anwser to that one.
quick question about ROCAF
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According to Wikipedia-
F-16 A/B: 146
Mirage 2000: 56
F-ck-IDF-1A/B: 128
F-5 E/F: 60+
About 420 combat aircraft total. They could seriously use some more.
F-16 A/B: 146
Mirage 2000: 56
F-ck-IDF-1A/B: 128
F-5 E/F: 60+
About 420 combat aircraft total. They could seriously use some more.
The_Zergling
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Actually for an island of that size and influence, Taiwan has a pretty impressive Air Force.
I wouldn't push for more fighters (yet), a major hindrance is the severe lack of advanced air to air missiles, as far as I know, only 120 AMRAAMS. What kind of Air Force has more F-16s than AMRAAMS?
On the other hand, with the M2000s it's the other way around. France only sold 60 Mirages to Taiwan, but supplied a LOT of Micas and Magics...
I wouldn't push for more fighters (yet), a major hindrance is the severe lack of advanced air to air missiles, as far as I know, only 120 AMRAAMS. What kind of Air Force has more F-16s than AMRAAMS?
On the other hand, with the M2000s it's the other way around. France only sold 60 Mirages to Taiwan, but supplied a LOT of Micas and Magics...
Concur on most particulars. Consider Britain, a nation of roughly three times population of Taiwan and roughly six times as worthy, or Japan, five times as populous and ten times as worthy, have both less than that number of fighter aircrafts, it is a very impressive number. Notwithstanding pressure from China, many more fighters is neither efficient given limited airspace nor feasible financially or recruitmentally.
MIGleader
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The_Zergling said:
America refrains from selling it's customers(that are not allies) large amounts of weapons, in the fear that they will stock pile them and start wars with their neighbors.
120 AMRAAMS wouldnt last two days. I would have thought taiwan would be allowed to order more if the PLAAF orders more r-77's.
As well as AMRAAM, they deploy MICA (Mirage 2000-5) and Skysword 2 active radar homing AAM which is the indiginous equiv to AMRAAM (probably not as good but not terrible either, used on Ching Kuo fighter):The_Zergling said:
MICA:
Skysword 2 (note, two such missiles are normally carried semi-recessed under the fuselage):
Troika said:
Both UK and Japan have larger navies to defend their island from sea, Taiwan does not. Though the ROCAF looks somewhat impressive on paper, the major weakness of the ROC military forces is in equipment acquisition. Due to PRC influence ROC's military suppliers is very limited (US), the US will only sell second tier stuff to ROC, and Taiwan's own arms industry is not even up to S. Africa or Sweden's level after 50 years.
And then there's the recent spat w/US over President Chen's travel, observe the rash of rumors over arms purchase:
The_Zergling
Junior Member
Troika said:
Hmm? I can't really comprehend what part you are referring to as "the point". If you're saying in terms of improving cross-strait relations then obviously any weapons on (either side) won't help tensions much.
Now if you're talking strictly military-wise, there are limits to how many aircraft can effectively be deployed in a region, especially airspace as limited as the Taiwan Strait. (And it's not like Taiwan is rolling in cash either)
From a ROCAF perspective, more aircraft aren't needed (for now), some legitimate needs that must be addressed are more air to air missiles, as well as an improvement in withstanding a first strike.